TRIVIALIZING CFD’s DUANE ATTACKS ON ELI SORIANO REGARDING TEXTUAL SCHOLARSHIP

First of all, let us look on the superficial case, trivialities and a trickster’s innuendo that catholic faith defender Duane tried to impose against Bro Eli Soriano regarding Textual scholarship or in simple terms, knowledge on greek\hebrew text in terms of linguistic approach. 

Let’s see…

So what if Bro Eli is not expert on those field? So was Peter and the apostles.

Acts 4:13

[13]Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.

Paul was also in terms of extra-religious matters even regarding absolute truth.

1 Corinthians 13:9-12

[9]For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

[10]But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

[11]When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

[12]For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

QUESTION: How does ignorance in certain things as how to read hebrew correctly, how to pronounce correctly and as alleged misrepresent word consonance affects the doctrinal consistency of the truth we have in the church?! Can trivial errors be evidence for believing the corruption of the whole doctrines?!

Its a logical fallacy actually. Just look below at how Duane criticize Eli even with a mocking comic. Its logical fallacy. A monkey trying on the logic of Einstein. Hmmp!

More…

Answering #2

Taking it at face value, Bro Eli was correct to say kurios (lord) is Elohim (the gods) in the manner how YHWH become adonai (lord). Nothing wrong. Its adopting the translator’s way of substitution. YHWH was substituted as Adonai therefore, it could be translated by virtue of that substitution to translate YHWH as Lord likewise kurios as Elohim bec the thought was, Lord was equatable to YHWH therefore lord is equatable to God or elohim, as i repeat, by virtue of the translator’s manner of substitution!

Is he wrong?

Then why do catholics used lord instead of YHWH, then?! Are you foolish to use lord as substitute to YHWH, and then attacks someone substituting kurios with Elohim, or say, translating, yet still in that essence of substitution?! 

Answering #1 & #3

Taking it at face value, mispronunciation as well as wrong reading pattern is too trivial and superficial to be integrally a falsification of a man’s credibility. The simplicity of that fact, exposed the catholic’s desperation to criticize even with least bearing. Its a desperate move. As i said, ignorance in technical hebrew or greek language is not evidence of falsehood. You have to specifically disprove the doctrine for you to be credible. Bec likewise Peter was unlearned regarding technicalities of hebrew language or greek learned only in sophisticated schools, or learning programs.

Me, I cannot read Greek and Hebrew and its accompanying grammar but there is wide expanse of bible translation where we can derive closely how the correct reading should be. HOW MUCH ENGLISH TRANSLATION IS WRONG COMPARING TO THE CORRECT GREEK/HEBREW READING FOR SUPERFICIAL BLUNDER TO FALSIFY THE INTEGRITY OF OUR DOCTRINES?! I guess, little. Besides, what is the holy spirit as guide been for?!

Now, what have i proven?

Catholics are too desperate to refute someone by sensasionalizing superficial criticism as though it has substantial value but then they were trying to amuse themselves ignorantly as though impactful. Youre deceiving yourselves, catholics by employing a dud and genius wannabe!

Actually, Duane employed a logical fallacy. He foolishly, as though an English Illiterate, infers that partially true is integrally true…

 Foolish Duane, akala ko match tayo?

#inactive_member

​IS ROMANS 13 SPEAKING OF POLITICAL LEADERS OR CHURCH LEADERS?

Ro 13:1 . Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

Ro 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Ro 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

Ro 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Ro 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

IS IT ABOUT POLITICAL LEADERS?

  • “For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God”.

Should that suggest that all political powers are ordained of God?

Ho 8:3 Israel hath cast off [the thing that is] good: the enemy shall pursue him.

Ho 8:4 They have set up kings, but not by me:

So Israel as a country set up kings but not by God. Israel have theocratic rulers, though it is not political but is that applicable to political rulers as well, the setting up of rulers of a country not by god?

Ec 9:2 All [things come] alike to all: [there is] one event to the righteous, and to the wicked; to the good and to the clean, and to the unclean; to him that sacrificeth, and to him that sacrificeth not: as [is] the good, so [is] the sinner; [and] he that sweareth, as [he] that feareth an oath.

So what happened to Israel that rulers are set up not by God is a similar event to all country, meaning, it could be possible likewise for other countries.

“All [things come] alike to all: [there is] one event to the righteous, and to the wicked”

So it is not true that all government leaders are set up or ordained by god as all these, political or theocratic, are in essence powers in the sense of being rulers of a country. The fact that god did not ordain all powers in those categories, therefore Romans13 was not speaking of them as the generally god-ordained powers.

IT THEREFORE SPEAKS ABOUT CHURCH LEADERS.

  •  “Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.”

Should that suggest that everything a ruler imposed as a law must not be resisted?

If a ruler imposed same sex marriage, it must not be opposed? Should Christians then accept same sex marriage?

 NO, OF COURSE, BUT DOES IT NOT SUGGEST THAT GOD IS SUGGESTING SAME SEX MARRIAGE TO NON-CHRISTIANS? SO IS THAT NOT SUGGESTING THAT GOD CONTRIBUTES FOR THEIR ETERNAL HELL.

Note: same sex affairs was the reason god destroyed Sodom and gomorrah. It is not natural. It is vile affection. 

Romans 1:26-27

[26]For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

[27]And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

SUPPORTING THOSE WHO PRACTICE FORNICATION AND VILE AFFECTION MERITS HELL. SO A RULER SUPPORTING A LAW OF SAME SEX MARRIAGE (FORNICATION/VILE AFFECTION) MERITS HELL. IS THAT SOMEBODY ORDAINED BY GOD? SOMEONE DAMNED TO HELL?

Ro 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Ro 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Ro 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Ro 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only those who do the same, but those also who have pleasure (TO THINK IN COMMON) in them that do them.

The verse likewise said:

do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:”

What good?

SAME SEX MARRIAGE AS THE RULER IMPOSED?

Haha, 

  • “For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil.”

Terror in greek is phobos which means ALARM.

IF a ruler imposed same sex marriage, should not there be an alarm as it would bring someone more to sin and hell?

Surely, it is not for political leaders “NOT TO BE AN ALARM TO GOOD BUT TO EVIL” as they likewise imposed evil things such as same sex marriage and death penalty.

GOD DID NOT ORDAINED THEM TO IMPOSE EVIL SUCH AS THESE ACTS:

Re 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and IDOLATERS, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

IDOLATERS ARE THE ONES DOING IDOLATRY AS SAME SEX MARRIAGE.

Col 3:5 . Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

GOD WILL NOT ORDAIN RULERS WHO SUPPORTS EVIL THINGS TO CONTRIBUTES FOR  PEOPLE TO GO TO HELL.

1Ti 2:3 For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Thus its not true that all these leaders are ordained by GOD. If so then, god supports same sex marriage, worship of Allah, child bride, divorce, death penalty, etc… In short, god supports evil. He supports Islam as true. He supports shariah and submission to Allah.

This reality makes it wrong. Therefore, Rom13 is not about government powers.

WHAT MAKES THEM THINK GOD ORDAINED ALL POLITICAL LEADERS?

  • “for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil”

Does that sound political?

What is the sword?

Jb 19:29 Be ye afraid of the sword: for wrath [bringeth] the punishments of the sword, that ye may know [there is] a judgment.

The sword is a sword of judgment. Its speaking of judgment day and not the penalty given to a criminal by the law of the land. 

Ps 149:6 . [Let] the high [praises] of God [be] in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;

Ps 149:7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, [and] punishments upon the people;

Ps 149:8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

Ps 149:9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

In judgment day, the minister along the many saints would execute judgment by the sword, that is what it means by:

“for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil”

  • “For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing”

Many thinks that the powers ordained are political leaders. All powers ordained by god are all political leaders. What made them think so? Bec we have to PAY TRIBUTE OR TAX TO THEM as the verse suggests.

But is that really so?

PAY YE TRIBUTE in greek is phorous teleite which means TO END THE LOAD OR BURDEN

WE HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE IN ENDING THE LOAD OF A RULER. 

As I want to say, this is referring to church leaders, one of their burden is to be financially liable for their members.

2C 12:15 And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved.

We could end this burden by giving contributions as sanctioned in the bible.

SO IT IS NOT ABOUT PAYING TAXES AT ALL. 

Why?

Bec if it speaks about government rulers as god-ordained powers including its laws such that it is likewise authoritative, then, it is therefore true that god supports sharia and its by-laws for Muslims, the worship of Allah.

Therefore, god supports Allah. It is not so. Therefore Rom13 is not about the literal government powers of a country but about religious leaders of the true church.

SO WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT ALL POWERS ORDAINED ARE POLITICAL LEADERS?

THE VERSES AFOREMENTIONED WERE ONLY FIT TO CHURCH LEADERS.™

#NO_TO_DEATH_PENALTY

#NO_TO_SAME_SEX_MARRIAGE

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Thank you.

HAS IGLESIA NI CRISTO THE CAPACITY TO KILL?

Below is a partial reproduction of Maya Agoncillo blog, an ex-INC, testifying how she was demystified on the true nature of INC thus leaving it for good. I would extract excerpts from her testimony as she wrote in her blog. You could read hers here: Click here!

Excerpt 1

She likewise knew how INC made a death threat on Bro Eli Soriano live on TV, as they threatened him, that Amurao, a funeral service would fetch him at the airport with red carpet, candles and finally saying, “rest in peace” in pretense of jovial ambience.

Were they serious?

They might say, could we incriminate ourselves by making serious death threats on public television?

On the assumption that it was just a harmless bluff, could it indeed be logical to make such, as loose and careless prank, without any grain of seriousness, after there was undeniable efforts to destroy him, malign him, and persecute him, where malice was clearly an element of these and not simply a harmless discontent?

I am speaking about the malicious attacks you did on him such as editing his video and portraying him negatively on live TV, likewise, portraying him as sodomizer through propagating porn komiks of him in acts of sodomy, without any validation from legal sources confirming sodomy. It was pure malicious defamation.

And indignantly, to the point of bereft reasons your hatred of him was evident when you accuse him of many things, and from small shallow things, you mounted charges of him in successive feat, and as evidently, vocalized it through, baseless ill description of him as extortionist, plunderer and kidnapper, as a form of brainwashing people, gullible INC members to have his reputation tarnished not to forget the fact that you attempted to marred him in infamy through video editing and porn komiks, portraying him negatively, and spiced it up with detrimental commentaries.

Even to brazenly called for Abu Sayyaf to track him down giving specification of his whereabouts.

watch here!

Its all malicious mischief bent for serious destruction!

Excerpt 2

Having these as unequivocal pattern of behaviour, was there no malice indeed in the same behavioural pattern with your violent ministers and members’ volatile past, then when you gave that apparently death threat?

Could your violent behaviour in the past be unrelated in matter of religious morals, with the present treatment you have for soriano, if we are to dig deeper and explore on the historical paradigm of your church, how violence and killing was inherently part of your past? Was it just coincidence that your ministers/members have been reported many times in acts of senseless violence, kuyog, and killings, as necessarily unrelated in terms of principle, ethics and norms from your alleged death threat on soriano, where they do this publicly in utter seriousness and your death threat are mere jovial prank?!

Or?

Could it be that it is a reflection of a behavioural pattern as inherently your nature, to kill-esp for the messenger-is holiness?

Excerpt 3

Here are some records:

Excerpt 4

source: Click here!

Excerpt 5

Source: Click here!

Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)

Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)
Iglesia Ni Cristo has THOUSANDS of convicted criminal members (robbers, rapists, murderers)

Were these just a random unrelated behaviours without any link to religious moral custom?

“TO KILL-ESP FOR THE MESSENGER-IS HOLINESS”???

Were they not accustomed to it, to violent behaviours, to killings?! Let witnesses divulge an apparently realistic monster.

Excerpt 6

Excerpt 7

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Excerpt 9

Perhaps, you have excommunicated convicted criminals and killers, as you would do for any alibi you would concoct, but the mere fact that a pervading and consensual sense of violence and repulsion is seen in your midst attests to what accustomization there is, amidst your church.

A shallow cursing and invectives, merits retaliative measures as lawsuits?

Did you not do that to Bro Eli?!

What was it for?!

Destruction!

That as clear evidence of what I am talking about. You’re accustomed to vengeful tendencies where a simple invectives is not tolerated but must be recompense with the offenders utmost if possible, torment!

You don’t care for welfare, inconsiderate bunch of sociopaths!

Here is how your members react to Mon Tulfo’s careless tirade:

By what biblical sanction do you make charges even from minor offenses as invectives?

Is it coincidence how you’re intolerant and vindictive even from minor offenses with how news reports testifies of your ministers/members numerous murderous tendencies?!

Or is it bec it is inherently by the fact that somehow it was their accustomization inculcated through the years?

Could criminal behaviours be just a wayward sliver as Judas was to the church or Ananias and sapphira was but not actually a church responsdibility?

Or could these volume of testimonies, and actual criminal realities be just a hideous and tantamountly, a consequential behaviour, to how you have nurtured your church, indirectly as a creeping unseen hand, has fashioned in many a criminal ego?!

Thus when you gave that death threat for Bro Eli Soriano, was it just a mindless bluff, having in your midst, the criminal behavioural pattern observed consistently or if not, lavishly in the past where nothing of it was done insincerely, or mindlessly, as a simple jovial bluff, whereas yours are mindless, non-malicious bluff?!

The question is, has Iglesia ni Cristo any capacity to kill, esp their most hated enemy, Bro Eli Sorianoa?

Is it impossible that a church with demonic working force in it has no capacity to kill?

Indeed, Erano Manalo, their dead leader, they believed spoke by divine guidance, declared the INC’s administration as having satan’s dominion as he said:

Source: Click here!

Manalo admitted his church was overcome by satan as evil has dominion in his church as he said, all his church workers are instruments of Satan, through these workers unanymous deception schemes toward the administration making satan a working power over the church  and thus, its authorities were a corrupted bunch as lies, Manalo claimed was satan’s have become pervading over them.  Could Satan ever have dominion over the church?!

No!

Never would the glory of Satan ever prevails in the church as gods glory is forever in it and the church was meant to remove us from Satan’s power so as these verses say,

Now, could a church, with demonic influence has no capacity to kill?!

Now, what’s the question again!?

HAS IGLESIA NI CRISTO THE CAPACITY TO KILL, ESP BRO ELI SORIANO!?

WHERE THEY JUST BLUFFING WHEN THEY GAVE THE DEATH THREAT TO BRO ELI?!

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RECAP:

  • At least two testimonies of  killing consent from INC!
  • INC made a live TV death threat for soriano.
  • Malicious destruction of soriano by ministers through black propaganda.
  • Vindictive tendencies of INC for retaliatory charges  even from minor offenses were evident.
  • Erano Manalo claimed INC administrative body as almost integrally demonic!
  • ELI SORIANO RUN AWAY TO ANOTHER COUNTRY BEC OF INC! (You dont run away like that without life at stake)
  • AMANSEC TESTIMONY OF A KILLING MISSION FROM INC TO KILL BRO ELI
  • NUMEROUS REPORTS OF MINISTERS AND MANY MEMBERS HAVING VIOLENT BEHAVIOURS AND  KILLING RECORDS!
  • EXCERPT 8&9 SPEAKS ABOUT A HEAD DEACON PLANNING TO KILL AND CESAR ADAMOS HUNTED LIKE CRIMINAL BEC OF CHALLENGING INC.
  • EXCERPT 3 AN EX-INC TESTIMONY OF HITMEN IN THE INC.
  • A WIDESPREAD BELIEF AMONG INC MEMBERS THAT IT IS HOLY TO KILL ESP IN MATTERS THAT CONCERNS THE MESSENGER
  • INC MADE A DEATH THREAT FOR SORIANO
  • AND LASTLY, THE “ATAPANG NGA MGA TAO” THE INC CHURCH MADE DEATH THREAT FOR ELI SORIANO!⚠

NO CAPACITY TO KILL!?

Do you see the consistency of a behavioural pattern??

Lastly, as the final nail to the coffin, is the public record, how that INC expressed an evil and wanton desire for Eli to be brutally killed.

Now folks! You do the math!

Note: all excerpts were from Maya Agoncillo’s blog. Click here! unless the source is otherwise indicated.

MCGI: THE YET IMPURE CHURCH!

Bro Eli, I don’t intend to apostate myself from MCGI, as I revealed in my blog, I was baptized Sept 29, 2000, but my name is missing in the MCGI records. Even if brothers and sisters reject me and despite you calling me an impostor once, my heart is fixed, I will never detach myself from the church, specially now, that I have proven to myself with infallible proof that this is indeed the true church. Notwithstanding the fact that the calling in my heart has never change despite the debilitating schizoprenia i have, that forced me to be inactive. My baptism of fire. Faith never died, it become stronger. Its immutable. Strong and certain!

Nevertheless, being inactive, I have my own biblical concepts which if perfected, I believe it would equally be MCGI. On the meantime, I’m undergoing the process of perfecting these concepts, god willing. This is my wish, to learn true doctrine even by myself through divine guidance.

I hope noone would feel betrayed if sometimes, actually sporadically,  I vocally, expressed opposition to what Bro eli preach but it doesn’t mean, I am against the truth or Bro eli as my minister and messenger of god.

Let’s look at my sporadic opposition like this:

We could be both in a condition wherein, this condition is biblically in right context,  in the sense, that truth has sometimes different angles all of us are immersed in, playing different parts of the truth as it was intended to convene to the fulfillment of the new covenant–the perfection of knowledge.

Please understand my point as we go along.

Bro eli said:

Bro Eli is right, God is not a god of contradictions. His words don’t contradicts. Yet nowhere did he guarantee that his preachers/ministers are infallible or inerrant. 

Mcgi has itself too records of amending doctrines. So being the true church, it validated the biblical reality of the church yet imperfection. I hope Bro eli would take mine as mere suggestion and not actually as rebellion or an attempt to destroy him. I am doing this as collaborative way of perfecting the truth, if ever bro eli would consider mine, if by a chance, my thought of the church as yet impure is true. If not may god enlightens me!. I believe the church is undergoing the process of perfection as silver is purged 7times by fire so as it say,

Being under the process of refinement, there would still be impurities, that needed correction, that is for perfection.

As prophesied, there would be a time of correcting errors as understanding would inevitably come.

We have not come yet to that point of perfect understanding, so as I believed. There is no guarantee yet of perfect understanding. If there is, Bro eli should have been a perfect man, inerrant and infallible. But then his accusation against INC’s flaws is undermining the reality that if INC is the true church, it could still be undergoing yet the process of refinement as predicted by Zechariah and Isaiah, therefore the necessity to rectify errors is a necessity, thus errors in doctrines are not actually valid reasons to falsify a church, given the argument that if they are the true church they could still be purifying itself from errors so as prophesied.

Therefore, we cannot falsify a church by its errors.

MCGI likewise, has share of amending doctrines.

I was attending church service in cubao year 2000. We prayed by kneeling like catholics. Lately, I heard bro eli attacking catholics of their way of praying, kneeling down, and during these times, he amended the church’s praying posture to prostration.

Likewise, we didn’t pray towards the east then. Now, he amended it.

He also changed the name of the church used by bro perez by specifically, substituting suhay with saligan.

That is some I could reliably attest.These proves the imperfection of the church. Errors must be rectified. 

Thus, it is inappropriate for fault-finding when we likewise wasn’t flawless. 

This is not as an insult or contempt. A subordinate having nerves to oppose his leader when dutibound he must submit. Nevertheless, submission to a leader is not implied as total submission when nothing, even a slight provocation for contrast, as means of suggesting something for consideration is allowed. We are one body that concerns for every part for edification. If you would hate me for suggesting something adverse to the norms, then there is no true brotherhood. If you condemn me inconsiderate of my thoughts, you don’t consider me as one of you. 

The church is a church of fellowship where everyone’s thought is either appreciated or corrected. If not, it would be authoritarian!

Even then, even if you reject me, what harm is there for me? You should be thinking of yourselves. You might be doing harm to yourselves.

But then, if everything is by faith, what basis do I have to oppose my minister?

Am I authorized?

I believe so. Let me justify.

TO STRIVE WITH WORDS FOR PROFIT! Is this not the very essence of debates, bible expo and likewise consultation?!

This I believe gives me right to strive with bro eli with words that when settled would be for profit. Thus I have right to oppose him for a better consequence: the establishment of truth, tested as silver! Bec for this matter we are Christians, intended to care where love’s inevitable pursuit is perfection. 

I am doing this for one purpose, for the establishment of the truth in its perfect state, if possible.

If I am wrong, at least I could say, I did my obligation as a christian, that is, to care, to love for the church, according to the level of my understanding and the opportunity of circumstances god gave me as effective Christian.

For the love of god!

​PROVING ELI SORIANO AS A MESSENGER OF GOD AND THE CHURCH HE LEADS AS THE TRUE CHURCH

firstly, I would like to clarify why we are called MCGI or members church of god international, despite the fact that by faith we believe we are the church of god by name.

The court prohibited the church to use the church of god as identity, therefore forcing the church to invent a name, as necessitated by the Philippine law which name must be registered to the SEC. After trying on new different names, the church decided to use MCGI, as final and yet man made. It is not biblical, the name MCGI is not biblical but the discretion of adopting a new name is biblical. What gives the church right to adopt a new name?
Firstly, as circumstances dictates, the church has to abide by the law to register the church with a name, as performing christian duty imposed by god as it say,

1 Peter 2:13-14

[13]Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

[14]Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

secondly, god assured us that the church would exist throughout all generation, as it say,

Ephesians 3:21

[21]Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

thirdly, the church would suffer different kinds of persecution, as it say,

2 Timothy 3:12

[12]Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

One of such persecution, is how MCGI was persecuted by our enemies such as IGLESIA NI KRISTO, wherein they defamed, maligned and vilified the church by malicious portrayal of bro eli in a negative limelight, by editing his videos and purportedly broadcasting them in vile utter deception on national TV, likewise by portraying him as a sodomizer by promoting porn komiks illustrating eli in acts of sodomy, even, without confirmatory verdict of the court, those among many others, such as more than 10 libel cases which if viewed from a moral perspective are too insignificant in essence of its, nature as reasons to prejudice someone.

These as viewed from a spectators perspective, are mere retaliation,  even possible hatred, after they cannot level to his genius, whereby, they are stripped naked of any credibility and decency.

Rumor goes, I read from an INC testimony, why she left INC, enumerating the many atrocities the INC did causing eli to exile to another country.

These persecutions as foretold by god, would indeed happen, such as when another rival church prevented us from using our real identity, THE CHURCH OF GOD,
yet, despite all these, stripped of a name, should we continue existing as a church without a name?

The church without a name as required by law as a registered identity, would naturally, die, yet god intended the church to live through all generation, by advising us to take persecutions patiently, as it say,

1 Peter 2:20

[20]For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.

By saying, the church would live throughout all generation and advising us, to take persecutions patiently such as in this case of stripping off our name, its as if god was saying, you have the right to use another name, so as for the church to continue living throughout all generation,

That is of course, if we are the true church, logically speaking.
Are we the true church?
Yes. Bec we are one with the Jerusalem church of the apostles.

1 Corinthians 12:13

[13]For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

How did MCGI become one body with the first century church?

Ephesians 3:6

[6]That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Who are these gentiles who are one body with the church?

Acts 2:38-39

[38]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

[39]For the promise is unto you (the Jews), and to your children,(other converts) and to all that are afar off, (afar off in time and distance) even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Those gentiles who become one body with the true church are the converts during the early christianity and to those, afar off in time and distance, referring, to our time and place, specifically, mcgi.
How do we become one body with them?

As i quoted, by the gospel, interpreted in its right context as it say,

1 John 1:3-4

[3]That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

[4]And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

We, mcgi, become one body with the true church, indivisible and inseparable, by adopting those things the church wrote regarding the gospel whereby through it, we have fellowship with the early church, thereby, making as members of the church of god, making us one body with them, and being one indivisible body, logically, we embodies the whole church, in principles, tenets, belief and righteousness thereby making us the true church.

John 17:20-21

[20]Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 

[21]That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 

HAVING THAT, LET US SEE HOW INDEED WE ARE THE TRUE CHURCH.

How did a group without continuous and unbroken link from the apostles become the true church?
There was no proof of continuous and successive link from the early church that continues throughout all time.

Though god said, the church would exist throughout all generation, he did not mean it as throughout all time, bec god defines generation or ages differently than how man defines it. One generation could be more than a thousand years as expressed by jesus,

“This generation would not pass until all these be fulfilled”

That includes his coming, it never happened yet, meaning, a generation is the duration of events promised to happen”
Another description of generation implies, a broken line of time, meaning, it is not all the time but selective moments of time as god said,

He will be the god of zion throughout all generation. It did not happen, bec he forsook judah at one time. Ask me for proof, if you doubt it.
Therefore, logically, throughout all generation would mean, the duration of time wherein god rules in the church regardless of the time it died.

It was not continuous in time as physically the church died as I will illustrate later on.
Another basis, why they say, the church never died is bec jesus said, i will be with you unto the end of time, expressed in this verse,

Matthew 28:20

[20]Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Yet, it did not mean as throughout time bec at one time the physical church died, implying by logic that it means, I will be with you always as long as there is a gathering even of at least two or three,as expressed,

Matthew 18:20

[20]For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. 

Meaning, I would be with you always whenever you gather regardless of the time the church died, is explanatory to what jesus said, I will be with you always unto the end of time! 

By these logical reasons, we don’t believe in the unbroken succession and continuity of the church, the mere fact is, it died, as expressed,

Amos 8:11-12

[11]Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

[12]And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.

There was a famine of gods words, meaning, noone in the world understood the bible, therefore necessitating the death of the church, it was as expressed by prophet daniel,

Daniel 12:4,9

[4]But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

[9]And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

The bible was sealed therefore there was no understanding, therefore the church died, which as promised would resurrect at the specific time of the end wherein knowledge inccrease, implying, all field of knowledge such as science, technology, medicine etc….at this specific time, understanding would flourish necessitating the resurgence of the true church.

What is the name of the church?
THE CHURCH OF GOD

Acts 20:28

[28]Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

That as predicted by Daniel,

Daniel 9:19

[19]O Lord, hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name.

The people of god, the church, would be called by the name of god, thus, it is correctly and officially named, THE CHURCH OF GOD. God being his name.
From which place would the resurgent church initially would appear?

Malachi 1:11

[11]For from the MIZRACH (sunrise i.e east) of the sun even unto the MABO (west) of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.

As testified, the resurgence of the church would begin from the east propagating its ministry unto the west. Which particular in the east?

Isaiah 24:15

[15]Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the east even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea.

The church of god, being, the official name by faith, would emerge from the east from the isles of the sea, expanding in numbers from east going to the west.
They said, from east to west doesn’t imply the east as beginning point going to the west but simply, referring to it in terms of coverage and not direction.

Yes. It could be provided it is taken out of context bec as I will show later the unique distinction of the church it would conclusively and inevitably refers to our church thereby a testament that from east to west speaks of the direction of ministry confirming how our church progressed.
What is the unique description of this church?
They have the unique doctrine of not cutting women’s hair growing long naturally  and prohibiting long hair for men for purposes of submission to god, as he prescribed.

1 Corinthians 11:14-15

[14]Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

[15]But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

God did not impose any particular length of hair. If we decide its length then its man made doctrine therefore to abide strictly to gods law, women must not cut their hair but to grow long by nature so as god implied,

DOES NOT NATURE TEACHES YOU?
Other unique distinction of the church is, for women to wear modestly without jewelries, as expressed,

1 Timothy 2:9

[9]In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Lastly, as distinctive as it is, is the unique doctrine of calling a fool, as fool, an idiot as idiot, and a stupid person stupid, contextually and appropriately, as expressed, by Paul,

1 Corinthians 15:36

[36]Thou fool (idiot, stupid), that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

We must do that also as paul required,

Philippians 4:9

[9]Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

Paul uttering those words, thou fool, stupid, idiot, must be replicated in same manner, as paul said to do also as he did, appropriately as god required to call fool, stupid or idiot as fool, idiot or stupid anyone that fits the description, even personally as paul and jesus did being models of morality, accusing people as child of the devil, hypocrites, serpent, fox etc…
Summary

I have shown you basically the distinctive elements of the true church, in such a way that it definitely refers to any church bearing this distinction, as it is unique and unduplicatable, as promised,

1 Peter 2:9

[9]But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Peculiar people, that as assurance, solidifies the uniqueness of the church.

Now ask yourselves, which present day church fits entirely all the unique  description?

Which church, with an official name, THE CHURCH OF GOD, resurged, resurrected, re-appeared in the specific time of the end wherein fields of knowledge as science and technology, transportation, meficine etc…are remarkably in progress, initially appearing in the east, in the isles of the sea, having a distinct direction of ministry from east going to the west having the unique doctrines of women not cutting their hair, not wearing jewelries, and modest in clothes and behavior, and men not having long hair

AND HAVING THE UNIQUE DISTINCTION OF DOCTRINALLY CALLING FOOLS, IDIOTS, STUPID APPROPRIATELY AS FOOLS, IDIOTS OR STUPID

so as a christian doctrine?
IM PROUD TO SAY, NO OTHER THAN THE CHURCH BRO ELI SORIANO LEADS

thus applying reason, logic and common sense, it testifies of our church, registered as MCGI, but believed as the true church bearing the official name, THE CHURCH OF GOD…to be the fulfillment of these biblical prophecies.
No other choice.
Now, that I have proven that we are the true church, do you still doubt that the leaders of this church are messengers of god?
A pastor of the true church is a messenger of god as the Greek definition implies,

AGGELOS
MESSENGER ESP AN ANGEL; BY IMPLICATION A PASTOR

All pastors of the true church as leader is ordained by god.

Romans 13:1

[1]Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

that as I believe speaks of all religious powers or leaders in the church as guarantee of their divine ordination such as eli soriano.

That is not about political powers or government powers of man as not all govt powers were by god 

Hosea 8:4

[4]They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: 

whereas ROM 13 speaks that all powers are ordained by god, therefore these ordained are religious leaders 

Therefore  being leader of the true church and pastor, logically, eli was ordained by god as his messenger, a pastor being ordained leader and messenger.

Conclusively, these biblical evidences, the unique description of the church, taken in correct context testifies of which among churches in the world qualifies in doctrinal essence and fulfillment, to be the one and unique true church that god has ever formulated as heirs of the promise, once delivered to the early church.

It speaks of our church.

Therefore when it say, the name of god would be great FROM EAST TO WEST, it is just confirmatory of direction rather than coverage, testifying of how our church, being the one true church attested by being the only one that fits the unique description of the true church as presented above, progressing from east going to west , is validating  mal 1:11 as indeed speaking of direction of ministry wherein it makes gods name great beginning from east to west basing on how our church progressed.
Assess my friends….

Obviously, it testifies of our church, THE CHURCH OF GOD, mcgi, ang dating daan…

And eli soriano, being a pastor who leads was ordained, and being a pastor means he is a messenger!
Thank you.

P.S. Bro eli, correct me where i am wrong!

Dennis Butic

​FALSIFYING THE “GOD DIED” CONCEPT

—Similarly, according to the rule of the Catholic Faith, we also say with THE STRICTEST TRUTH that GOD WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN, that GOD DIED; for as THE DIVINITY WAS NEVER SEPARATED FROM HIS BODY which was laid in the sepulcher, we TRULY CONFESS that GOD WAS BURIED.” [CATECHISM OF TRENT of Pope St. Pius V, Art. IV, #8, par 2]. —
Catholics say god died in his human nature. Basically they were saying that god in his divine nature transmutated into a human being yet still retained with him his divine nature.

They use this verse:

Jn 1:1 . In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
That is why, when the human nature died, it is god himself who died but not in his divine nature. 

They use this verse:

Re 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Re 1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
That is the catholic concept. 

I on the other hand would try to interpret the truth as I heard from Bro Eli Soriano.

We don’t believe god can die.

HOW COULD AN ETERNAL BEING DIE?

It is self-defeating to the very essence of eternal if he died. Does god contradicts himself to say he died and say he is eternal?

Hb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come… This is the true God, and eternal life.
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. It was referring not to the human being but the divine person. That divine person is eternal life, thus he as god, cannot die.

Who died?

Hb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
As we can see, there is a distinction between the body (human being) and god (me).

“but a body hast thou prepared me”
The body (human being) is not god bec it is not eternal whereas god is eternal.
Hb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come… This is the true God, and eternal life.
This defeats the idea that god become man. 

But how come john 1:1,14 say he become man?

Jn 1:1 . In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
It is obviously a mistranslation bec it would contradicts the idea that he only came inside a man.

How is it a mistranslation?

THE WORD WAS “MADE” FLESH
MADE in greek:

G1096  ginomai  ghin’-om-ahee
a prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb;
to cause to be (“gen”-erate), i.e. (reflexively) to become (come into being), used with great latitude (literal, figurative, intensive, etc.).

As we can see, the application of “to become” implying, to become flesh is rather literally or figuratively.

“used with great latitude (literal, figurative,”
It suggests two things. Either god become flesh literally or figuratively. If he become flesh literally, then it’s wrong. It would contradict HEB 10:5 which say, he did not become flesh, but indwells in the flesh.

Why not?

God is eternal while his human flesh is not suggesting that the human flesh is not god.
So the right interpretation would be is, he become flesh figuratively speaking. That is, “indwelling in the flesh which through flesh god was manifested”.

1 Timothy 3:16

[16]And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

They would argue using this verse: JESUS AS THE FIRST AND THE LAST DIED.

Re 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Re 1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
It must not be understood as god died.

Why?

Bec god is eternal, as I have presented.

It must be understood in context. 

Jesus, in his literary speeches, often interchangeably use his human nature alone to refers to himself, and would use his divine nature alone to refer to himself. 

HIS HUMAN NATURE AS HIMSELF. HIS DIVINE NATURE EXCLUDED.

Jn 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
His human nature refers to him. His divine nature is excluded as it is not a man. As we see in HEB 10:5, Body and god is distinct from each other.

HIS DIVINE NATURE AS HIMSELF. HIS HUMAN NATURE IS EXCLUDED.

Jn 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
He used his divine nature alone to refer to himself. it excludes his human nature as it was not from heaven.

Therefore as we can see, jesus would often refers to himself by his human nature alone or by his divine nature alone. He can interchangeably do it, and still it refers to himself, so when he said,

Fear not; I am the first and the last

It obviously refers to his divine nature. And when he said,

I [am] he that liveth, and was dead

It obviously refers to his human nature alone.
It doesn’t mean that the human nature is god. 

First, they are distinctively different entities.

Hb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
“but a body (human nature) hast thou prepared me (god)”
Second, god is eternal thus the human nature is not god bec it is not eternal.
Hb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come… This is the true God, and eternal life.
WHY DO WE BELIEVE THAT GOD CANNOT DIE?
BEC OF THE FACT THAT HE IS THE ETERNAL LIFE, AN ETERNAL BEING.
That for instance, demolished the rational structure of catholic faith, falsifying in effect its basic foundation.

HOW COULD AN ETERNAL BEING DIE?
HOW JESUS IS BOTH MAN AND GOD…
Jesus is the combination of human body and the god within

HEB10:5
The body is not god as it is not eternal whereas GOD is eternal 

1john5:20
The body died. The GOD inside the body separated and visited spirits in prison

1PET3:19

The body was left in the grave

AS implied, he would be in the tomb 3days and 3nights…
That proves, the two nature of Jesus

AS human (the dead body)

AS GOD (the one that visited the spirits)

Corroborative proof:

Ephesians 4:9-10

[9](Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

[10]He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

THE ONE THAT DESCEND IS THE ONE THAT ASCEND TO HEAVEN.  IT CANNOT BE THE PHYSICAL BODY AS FLESH CANNOT ENTER HEAVEN.

1 Corinthians 15:50

[50]Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
By simple logic, we can conclude that the one that descended to the spirits in prison as the one that ascended to heaven cannot be the physical body as the one who ascended to heaven being the one that descended to the spirits of prison cannot be flesh as flesh cannot enter heaven, whereas jesus entered it, therefore suggesting, that, human body and god, was a different entities as corroborating HEB 10:5, the human body is a distinct component of jesus along with god that indwells in it.

That, combination of body and GOD is the person of Jesus…
CLEARLY, GOD DID NOT BECOME MAN. THUS WHEN THE MAN (HUMAN BODY) DIED, IT WAS NOT GOD WHO DIED.

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THE EVIL OF EDUARDO MANALO AND THE IGLESIA NI CRISTO CULT REGARDING 36TS

.This analysis is based on the INC statement justifying their inhumane and unchristian act of expelling Manalos relatives from their housing compound. Before that, let us consider how INC have love people by giving them charitable services and help such as free housing for the poor.

THEY LOVE THEIR FELLOW MAN AS THEYMANIFEST.

In Tagalog,

“Tunay na tunay”

HERE IS THERE STATEMENT:

(In full)
INC releases official statement: INC to file ejectment case against expelled members
Iglesia Ni Cristo Press Statement

January 14, 2016
Ang Pamamahala ng Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC) sa pangunguna ng aming Executive Minister, ang Kapatid na Eduardo V. Manalo, ay nagpasiya nang magsampa ng ejectment case sa hukuman laban sa mga dating kaanib nito na sina G. Angel Manalo at Gng. Lottie Hemedez at mga kasama na hanggang ngayon ay hindi pa rin umaalis sa housing compound ng Iglesia sa #36 Tandang Sora Avenue.
Nais naming bigyang-diin na ang buong compound sa #36 Tandang Sora ay pagmamay-ari ng Iglesia Ni Cristo. Subalit ang karapatang ito ng Iglesia ay hindi na iginagalang kundi niyuyurakan pa ng kampo nina G. Angel at Gng. Lottie.
Sapul nang sila’y itiniwalag noong July 23, 2015—kasamang nawala sa kanila ang pribilehiyo na makapanuluyan sa pabahay ng Iglesia. Gayunman alang-alang sa simulaing Cristiano at para sa humanitarian considerations, hindi namin sila agad pinaalis doon.
Bilang nakikipanuluyan sa loob ng bakuran na pagmamay-ari ng INC, gumawa pa sila ng mga bagay na isinasapanganib ang seguridad ng naturang INC compound at ang ibang naninirahan malapit doon.
Sa katunayan, namataan sa CCTV na sila’y nagpapapasok ng mga kahina-hinalang kalalakihan. Nakatakip ang mukha kahit dis-oras ng gabi. May bitbit na malalaking bag na sila lang ang nakakaalam kung ano talaga ang laman. Patuloy na namamalagi sa loob ng compound ang mga lalaking minsan may hawak na camera at may bitbit na kung ano sa kanilang mga bag. Tinatanong namin ang publiko—kung ganito ang ginagawa sa inyong bakuran: papayagan ba ninyo na mamalagi ang mga ito na wala kayong ginagawang legal na aksiyon?
Dahil dito, nagsampa ang INC ng injunction case sa korte laban sa kanila noong Setyembre 21, 2015. Naintindihan ng hukuman ang pangangailangan ng seguridad kaya sila mismo ang nag-atas na maglagay ng security ang INC doon for monitoring purposes (September 29, 2015). Sa maraming ulit ay hiniling at ipinakiusap na ibigay nila ang mga pangalan ng mga naroroon. Hanggang nitong huli ay ipinag-utos na ng hukuman sa panig nila G. Angel at Gng. Lottie na magbigay ng listahan ng mga pangalan ng lahat ng kasama nila sa compound. Pero hanggang ngayon hindi nila sinusunod ang court order na ito. Mahigit na tatlong buwan na pong naninirahan sa tabi ng Central Office ang mga kahina-hinalang tao na iyan na hanggang ngayon ay hindi nila pinapangalanan. Hindi lamang sila ang naninirahan at nanunuluyan sa Central Compound—wala bang karapatan ang mga otorisadong naninirahan doon sa kanilang kapanatagan at seguridad (freedom from fear and right to security)?
Isang gabi noong Nobyembre 2015, may isang lalaki ang inilabas ni G. Angel at mga kasama na nalaman na lamang po namin na patay na kinaumagahan. Hanggang ngayon ay malabo pa rin kung ano po nangyari. At ang sisi ay gusto pa nilang ibaling sa Iglesia.
Noong Disyembre 2015, pagkatapos na matuloy ang inspeksiyon ng sheriff batay sa court order, ayaw nilang patingnan ang kabuuan ng lugar at ipinipilit na iyong isang gusali lamang sa bukana ang pwedeng tingnan sa ocular inspection. Sinabi nila na hindi bahagi ng #36 Tandang Sora ang ibang mga gusali at bahay ng dalawang (2) hektaryang compound at inamin na sa Iglesia iyon. Dahil dito, inusog na ang mga temporaryong bakod na yero upang maproteksiyonan ang mas malaking bahagi ng compound ng Iglesia. Dito na rin nabawi ang 39 na sasakyan na pag-aari ng Iglesia na kanilang itinatago ng matagal na panahon. Mayroon pang hinahanap na mahigit na 20 pang sasakyan na nakapangalan sa Iglesia.
Ayaw nilang magbayad ng konsumo nila sa kuryente at gusto pa nilang ang Iglesia pa rin ang magbayad nito para sa kanila. Ang totoo, for humanitarian considerations, hanggang ngayon ang Iglesia pa rin ang nagbabayad ng kanilang konsumo sa tubig.
Nitong mga nakaraang araw, ang mga kasamahan nila sa loob ay inaaway, sinasaktan, pinagsasalitaan ng masama at minumura ang mga security guards sa compound ng Iglesia.
Lahat ng mga ito ay nakapagdulot ng pagka-alarma sa mga kapatid sa Iglesia. Lalong nakararami sa mga kapatid ay nakadarama ng pangamba para sa seguridad hindi lamang ng Central Office ng Iglesia kundi lalo na sa buhay ng aming pinakamamahal na Tagapamahalang Pangkalahatan—ang Kapatid na Eduardo V. Manalo.
Sa harap ng lahat ng pangyayaring ito, kayo na mga nakamasid sa amin, kayo na rin ang makapagpapasiya. Tama bang akusahan ng paglabag sa karapatang pantao ang liderato ng Iglesia ni Cristo?
Sa kabila nito, hindi lamang sila patuloy na gumagawa ng malisyosong paninira kundi nagpa-file ng kung anu-anong kaso.
Sukdulan na ang kanilang mga paninira at pagsisinungaling sa media sa layuning siraan ang Iglesia lalo na ang kasalukuyang Pamamahala. Kaya ngayon gagawin na ng Iglesia ang hakbang na marapat alinsunod sa itinatadhana ng batas

***TAKEN FROM  THE IGLESIA NI CRISTO PAGE***

 

ASSESSMENT:
THE REASON OF THE EXPULSION:

1. Dahil daw tiwalag sila wala daw silang pribilehiyo sa pabahay ng iglesia…

2. Nilagay daw nila sa panganib ang seguridad ng INC compound na yon at ang mga taong naninirahan sa malapit tulad ng pagpapasok ng mga tao sa alanganing oras may bitbit  na kamera etc at nanirahan doon ng tatlong buwan.

3. Hindi daw sila sumunod sa korte na pangalanan lahat ng kasama nila sa compound.

4. May pinatuloy sila na kinaumagahan e namatay…

5. Sa ocular inspection ayon sa court order e hinde nila pina-inspect yong ibang parte ng compound.
6. Itinago nila ang 39 sasakyan ng iglesia.

7. Ayaw nilang magbayad ng water and electric fees.

8. Inaaway, sinasaktan at minumura ang mga securityy guards.

9. NAAALARMA ANG INC SA SEGURIDAD NI EDUARDOl MANALO DAHIL DITO.

10. Sinisiraan daw nila ang iglesia at kinakasuhan ng kung ano.

IYAN ANG SIDE NG INC. Maaaring totoo, maaaring hinde. Let us put into consideration how their actions were before, how they treat enemies such as eli soriano. They used deception such as splicing videos of Eli to paint him negatively. They aired audio version  of Elis program, maliciously cut to anger Muslims. They called for terrorists to track Eli. They threatened to kill him by calling for the services of amurao, a memorial service. Not excluding the NBIs harassment wherein possibly INC has influence, as one of their lawyer-member was a participant.

HAVING THAT, DO YOU THINK THEY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH? THEY WERE GUILTY of deception, lying and malice. They are an evil breed as a church. But let us note, how INC love their fellow man, tunay na tunay.

BIBLICAL JUDGMENTS ON THEIR ACTIONS AGAINST ANGEL AND TENNY:

How do christians behave towards excommunicated members ?
Let us say INC is the true church, in that aspect, this is the consequences:

HEB 6:4-8 FOR IT IS IMPOSSIBLE  FOR THOSE WHO WERE ONCE ENLIGHTENED…TO RENEW THEM TO REPENTANCE IF THEY SHALL FALL AWAY…THAT WHICH BEAR THORNS IS REJECTED AND NEAR  UNTO CURSING WHOSE END IS TO BE BURNED…

Nevertheless, no-one knows who were enlightened then fall away.

HOW COME?
We cannot judge who are guilty or innocent in the eyes of god, thus after, they are excommunicated, we cannot Judge them as evil or good.

1COR5:13YOU JUDGE THEM THAT ARE WITHIN BUT OUTSIDE THE CHURCH GOD JUDGE…

Why cannot we judge who are evil or good in the eyes of god?

BEC WE CANNOT READ THE HEART.

ONLY GOD CAN.

2CHRO 6:30 ONLY YOU (god) KNOWS THE HEART OF MEN

There is possibility that these people such as tenny or angel are merely blind thus to god they are sinless.

BLIND PEOPLE ARE SINLESS TO GOD.

JOHN 9:31 IF YE WERE BLIND YE SHOULD HAVE NO SIN BUT NOW YE SAY THAT YOU SEE, THEN YOUR SIN REMAIN.

BLINDNESS HAPPENS IN THE HEART. It is blindness of the truth of god.

EPH1:7-8 THE FATHER OF GLORY  MAY GIVE UNTO YOU THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM AND REVELATION IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM, THE EYES OF YOUR HEART BEING ENLIGHTENED…

ONLY GOD CAN SEE THE HEART. THUS ONLY HIM KNOWS WHO ARE INNOCENT OR NOT. How could they, angel and tenny, be blind? Possibly, bec they have no knowledge  of the truth bec they have different understanding.

THUS THERE IS POSSIBILITY THAT THEY ARE SINLESS TO GOD. HAVING THAT POSSIBILITY, WOULD YOU REFRAIN LOVING THEM, AS THEY COULD BE BROTHERS OF JESUS?

MATT 25:34-40 come ye  blessed of my father, inherit the kingdom…FOR I WAS HUNGRY  AND YOU FEED ME…I WAS A STRANGER AND  YOU TOOK ME IN…IN AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE DONE IT TO ONE OF THE LEAST  OF MY  BROTHERS YOU HAVE DONE IT TO ME.

BEC we cannot read hearts to know who are blind or not, BROTHERS of Jesus or not, we must love everyone. THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF LOVING ENEMIES AS JESUS TAUGHT. WHY DONT YOU LOVE  YOUR ENEMIES, INC? There is a provision of god though when the church would refrain from helping people.

2CHRO19:2 SHOULD YOU HELP THE UNGODLY AND LOVE THEM THAT HATES THE LORD, THEREFORE WRATH IS BEFORE YOU FROM BEFORE THE LORD….

When you can prove, that angel and tenny hates God, then don’t love and help them as indicated by context but the mere fact that you admits of helping them for humanitarian reasons then it proves, this verse is invalid.
NOT ALL BLIND PEOPLE ARE SINLESS TO GOD, BEC BLIND LEADERS ARE CONDEMNED TO HELL–those that leads others to hell.

MATT 23:16,15 WOE UNTO YOU BLIND GUIDES…FOR YE COMPASS SEA AND LAND TO MAKE ONE PROSELYTE AND WHEN HE IS MADE, YE MAKE HIM TWOFOLD THE CHILD OF HELL THAN YOURSELVES…HOW CAN YE ESCAPE THE DAMNATION OF HELL?

BLIND teachers as described are condemned. Are angel and tenny, blind teachers leading the blind to hell? Jesus said those to the specific people bec he read their hearts. Paul likewise judged a person bec of the guidance of the holy ghost.

ACTS13:9-10 PAUL FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST SAID O FULL OF SUBTILTY AND ALL MISCHIEF THOU CHILD OF THE DEVIL, THOU ENEMY OF ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS, WILL THOU NOT CEASE TO PERVERT THE RIGHT WAYS OF THE LORD?

Is there possibility that your judgment was by the guidance of the holy ghost? DID THE HOLY GHOST TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE BLIND LEADERS LEADING THE BLIND TO HELL? If so, your reasons must not exceed the law of christ.

1COR3:6 EXCEED NOT WHAT IS WRITTEN..

1COR9:20-21 TO THE JEW I BECOME AS A JEW…BUT UNDER THE LAW OF CHRIST.

Nowhere in the scriptures can you show that angel and tenny are BLIND LEADERS leading people to hell. There is no MORTAL sins they teach by their heresy. STILL, NOWHERE DID GOD SAID NOT TO LOVE BLIND LEADERS, OR NOT TO HELP THEM, instead, to have compassion.

ACTS20:35 HOW THAT SO LABORING YE OUGHT TO SUPPORT THE WEAK AND TO REMEMBER JESUS WORDS, IT IS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE.

LABORING magtrabaho daw, ano nga pala trabaho ni manalo?
The mere fact, that they could simply be blind without leading people to hell, Why refrain love or help for them when they could be the least of Jesus brothers?

MATT 25: 41-45 DEPART FROM ME YE CURSED INTO EVERLASTING FIRE…FOR I WAS HUNGRY AND YOU DID NOT FEED ME…A STRANGER AND YOU TOOK ME NOT IN…IN AS MUCH AS YE DID NOT DO TO THE LEAST OF MY BROTHERS YE DID IT NOT TO ME…

the mere fact, that tenny and angel could be least of the brothers of Jesus, you have done a grave offense to god by not feeding and giving them shelter. You should have love them considering that they could be blind or sinless and could have been the least of Jesus brothers.

JOHN 9:41 IF YE WERE BLIND YE SHOULD HAVE NO SIN…

THEY COULD BE ASTRAY SHEEP FROM THE FOLD WHICH JESUS WENT TO LOOK FOR:

LUKE15:4-7

or at least love them as family members.
LET US NOTE THOUGH THAT YOU LOVE YOUR FELLOW MAN VERY MUCH

TUNAY NA TUNAY…

(Unless though you could prove that they could provide for themselves in that instance of expulsion….then, I believe your acts are not justified, IF NOT, YOU SHOULD LOVE YOUR ENEMIES

FEED THEM

GIVE THEM TO DRINK

AS NECESSARY

so as God said…

BUT THEN, WHERE IS THE LOVE?

They are your family, manalo, for gods sake!)
lastly,

GEN 4:9 AND THE LORD SAID UNTO CAIN, WHERE IS YOUR BROTHER ABEL? HE SAID, I DONT KNOW, AM I MY BROTHERs KEEPER?

EDUARDO MANALO, ARE YOU YOUR BROTHERS KEEPER?
Let us note though that INC love their fellow man as evident by their charitable help to the poor…

Tunay na tunay…

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