NHORDZ G DIAMAL (ISLAM) TINALO NI DENNIS BUTIC (MCGI) SA DEBATE

Dennis Butic

INOSENTE ang mga asawa ni David, bakit paparusahan?

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Nhordz G Diamal

So admitado ka pala ngaun na ung Dinidios mo nagpamasacre ng inosente,

So bakit ka ngaun hindi pumapatay?

Eh Dios mo naman pala ang nag utos,

In fact hangang hanga si hesus sa utos na yan mg Dios mo eh,

Bakit dka humanga sa Dios mo na yan,

Anyway kaya lng ako di naniniwala na Dios yan kasi ang Dios ng islam sinabi sa #tao

Wag papatay ng inosente (quran 5:32)

Pero sa bible mo inutos mismo at aprovado ni hesus pa,

So can u praise ur God because he masacred na the innoscent child??

Pwede mo ba yan ilagay sa mga bahay mo na talata para mabasa ng dumadaan??^_^

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Dennis Butic

Natural kasi ANG inutusan lang ANG papatay kaya bakit ako papatay e ang utos sa christian e eto
NO VIOLENCE
NO VEHEMENT DESIRE
NO REVENGE
BE HARMLESS
DO NOT KILL
LOVE YOUR ENEMIES

sa islam, sinabi, bawal pumatay ng inosente. By context, dahil pumatay si muhammad ng inosente at pinayagan patayin ang insulters na inosente, means, inosente ay yung mga dineklara ng lider na inosente. Pero yung hinde dineklarang inosente e hinde inosente tulad ng ginagawa ng isis dahil isis is true islam.

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Nhordz G Diamal

No violence?

Samakatwid violence sau ung utos ng Dios na pumatay ng sanggol?

Ngaun inutusan ang israel na pumaslang ng sanggol na inosente,
Pupurihin mo ba ang israel na paslangin ang inosenteng sanggol??

At sa punto naman ng propeta,wala suang pinatay na inosente,,ilang beses ko na yan sinagot,,

Anyway according to ur NT,

lahat ng kasulat ay useful to teach,

Pumapatungkol ito sa ot kasi nung sabihin ni pablo ito ay wala pang NEW TESTAMENT,

NGAUN kaya mo bang ituro ang 1 samuel 15:3
At 2 chro 15:13??

At meron din sinabi sa ot na inutusan ang israel na WAG ASAWAHIN ANG SARILING INA,

sinusunod mo ba ang utos na un ng israel o hindi??

At sa huli sa luke 19:27 nagutos si hesus na patayin ang ayaw tumanggap na sya ay hari

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Dennis Butic

1sam15:3
2chro15:3

ABROGATED

ngayon kung WALA kang bagong argumento
Pahinga ka muna

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Nhordz G Diamal

Saan sinabi na abrogated??

Gumagawa ka nlng ng kwento,

Anyway bigyan mo ng response ang argument ko kasi it seems na iiwas kana nmn ahehge

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Dennis Butic

Nagrerequire ka ng context SA paginterpret SA islam tapos SA BIBLE e ayaw mo.

ABROGATED ACCDG TO BIBLICAL CONTEXT

CONTEXT…

At tsaka kahit HINDE, iyan ay utos SA specific na mga Tao TULAD NG utos ng DIOS kay Moses na gumawa ng gintong ahas. HINDE General law yan.

Kung kanino iniutos ang isang batas sila ang gagawa HINDE kasali yung HINDE inutusan

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Nhordz G Diamal

Well ipakita mo na in biblical context ay makikita ntn inabrogate yan,,

Hindi opinion mo lng,,

Now inamin mo na inutos ito sa kay moises samakatwid ang israel,

Well kung gagawa ang israel ng ganun karumaldumal na gawain,

Dpat mong purihin kasi Dios mo ang may utos sa kanila,

Now how about sa utos sa israel na bawal asawahin ang ina?

Naniniwala ka ba jn ??

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Dennis Butic

Oo purihin dahil sinunod nila ang DIOS.

Re abrogation

Maraming pinalitan si Jesus
Halimbawa
Matt5:38-39 an eye for an eye, a death penalty was replaced with RESIST NOT EVIL, or no revenge

Sabbath without work is ABROGATED by doing good works on sabbath as JESUS heal on sabbath which was prohibited…

War was ABROGATED by love your enemies

The Torah was ABROGATED by the gospel luke16:16

©

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Dennis Butic

Therefore CONTEXTUALLY, all killing is ABROGATED by love your enemies

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Dennis Butic

At tsaka kill all ay utos SA Israel at hinde SA christian

HINDE NAMIN gagawin GINAWA nila kasi BAWAL dadagdagan ang utos.
HINDE naman Kami inutusan PUMATAY.

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Dennis Butic

Nhordz G Diamal deadend?

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Nhordz G Diamal

Dennis Butic now is desperate sabi nya inabrogate kasi sabi nya,resist not evil,or no revenge,

Gusto nyang ipakita na evil ung ginawa ng Dios ni hesus gayong noong una ay kapuri puri ito kay hesus na utos,,,,

However so,

Hindi po ito inabrogate,pero pansamantala itong di ipinatupad ni hesus during his time,kasi kokonti lng sila,,at madali silang magapi,

Pero kung si hesus ay maghahari na at marami ng mga lingkod,wala ng puwang ang hindi kristyano dto sa mundo,

For example in luke 19:27
Ang lahat ng di tanggap na si hesus maging hari patayin,

so since marami na ang taga sunod ni hesus ngaun, abrogated na ang love ur enemies,dapat mong sundin si hesus na puksain ang hindi tanggap si hesus na maging hari,

In fact napatunayan na yn sa history,,pati sa pinas,at sa panahon din ng crusade,,pinagpapatay ng mga kristyano ang mga di sumasampalataya,^_^

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Nhordz G Diamal

So since pang israel ito Dennis Butic kapag susundin ng israel un,then kapuri puri un sau kasi dios mo nag utos nun,,^_^

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Dennis Butic

Hehe desperado ka nga.

RESIST NOT EVIL e yung wag kontrahin yung masama TULAD NG pagpatay…

Edi para wag kontrahin e di wag patayin ang murderer…

Luke 19:27 is to kill by judging sinners to hell WHICH is second DEATH.
That happens in judgment day.

Hahaha
Kahit saan anggulo di umubra

Iniwasan niya bakit nagmimilagro si Jesus ng sabbath e BAWAL

Meaning ABROGATED yung sabbath
KINONTRA niya e

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Dennis Butic

Crusade?

HINDE KRISTYANO yan.
Kami Lang ang tunay na KRISTYANO

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Nhordz G Diamal

Ngaun ay gusto mo ng ipahiwatig na ung pagpatay pala ay masama,,at hindi kanais nais,

Ung rapist hindi mo papatayin? ?

Nku patay yan pag ginawa nya sa kapatid,,

Now about sa luke 19:27
Wala pong sinabu na ito ay ukol sa judging through hell,

This is ur opinion,

Ito ay pagpapakita na sa pagbabalik ni hesus since hari na sya ay patayin ang mga inisente na ayaw syang tanggapin,, so nag iimply ito na kapag ang kristyano na ang majority ay pwede na silang pumatay,,

kaya sa panahon ng apostle kaya di sila pumatay kasi nga mahina pa sila,walang kapangyarihan at madali silang magapi,,

In fact si hesus nagpabili ng tabak eh,,kaso nung mapansin ni hesus na marami ang kawal,nakita nya na wala silang kalaban laban kaya nag utos na wag lumaban,,

At pinatunayan ng history yan,,

About sa sabbath,

Masasabi mong inabrogate yan,but nowhere in the bible,u can debatr the SDA on that tpic,

Anyway,ang OT sabi ni pablo ay USEFULL TO TEACH,,(2 TIMOTHY 3:16)

maskin si hesus sabi nya:

Mateo 15:4
God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’

Kahit si pablo :

Roman 1:32
Ang sasamba liban sa God un ung mga taong dapat patayin,

Yan ay nasa NT mo,

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Nhordz G Diamal

Hindi sila kristyano? ?

Well ganun din ang turing nila sau,hindi ka rin kristyano, ,kung kaya nakadepende yan sa belief

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Dennis Butic

Tama! Tulad ng ISIS, hinde tunay na Muslim para sayo!

Re Luke 19:27

It contradicts many verses if Christians literally kill such as
NO VIOLENCE
BE HARMLESS
NO REVENGE
NO VEHEMENT DESIRE
NO MALICE
LOVE YOUR ENEMIES
DO NOT KILL

logically by context, its not literal killing.

Re 2TIM3:16

true. All scriptures not abrogated is useful for religious belief.
Sabbath was abrogated. Sabbath prohibits any work to do, Jesus contradicted it, implying, abrogation!

Even the torah is abrogated
LUKE16:16 THE LAW IS UNTIL JOHN

paul supported it by saying, christ is the end of the law.

Well?

Ganun talaga Nhordz G Diamal people concludes from ignorance like you do.

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Nhordz G Diamal

Hindi ko sinabi na ang ISIS is not a true muslim,

Sa panahon di nila sinusunod ang mga tamang kautusan through quranic revelation and sunnah,then even ang mga ulama na hindi isis ay hindi muslim kung sasalungatin nila ito,,

Now in luke 19:27 it is very clear na kung nasa kapangyarihan na at si hesus ay marami ng taga sunod,he commanded u to kill the innoscent, ,

So ung love ur enemies na yan ay applikado lamang sa panahon ng mga apostle since wala pa silang pwera para makipag laban sa mga romano,

In fact ayon sa hula,ang kristo ay #may_mga_army,,kaso ang kristo mo ay sin hirap pa sa daga,pero para matupad ang hula na un dapat mong sundin un,, u can kill the innoscent para di magiging false messiah si hesus mo,,

Anyway in luke 19:27 it is literal killing,

Now about sa sabbath is abbrogated,

Nowhere in the bible na abrogated ito,that was never exist in ur bible,,

Luke 16:16 the law is until john??

Oh seriously?

Jesus said,
He will not abolished the law but he fullfilled it,,nagbgay na ako ng talata ukol jn,,

So if ang conclusion ko ay ignorance then ang jesus mo ang ignorance here since i am only refered to what he was said ,

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Dennis Butic

LOVE YOUR ENEMIES IS UNTIL THE 2nd COVENANT is fulfilled.

MATT 5:18 TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR TITLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW (gospel) TIL ALL BE FULFILLED

HINDE pa fulfilled yung 2nd COVENANT. YUNG mamemorize ng MGA TAO ang GOSPEL.

Kaya ngayon, by context, preserve pa ang manuscripts.
At AYON SA manuscripts…
MATT28:20
THE GOSPEL EVERYTHING JESUS TAUGHT WOULD BE TAUGHT AND OBSERVED UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD.

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Dennis Butic

It also say

THIS GOSPEL WOULD BE PREACHED TO ALL NATION

HINDE nangyari SA panahon ng apostles

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Nhordz G Diamal

in mateo 5:17 it is very clear na ito ay ipinapatupad ni hesus,

Mawawala lng ang mga ito,, kung mafulfilled ang lahat,ang tanggapin si hesus bilang hari,

So on that sense,para maging hari si hesus ay kailangan ipatupad muna ang law,Kinakailangan mo munang pagpupuksain ang mga ayaw sumampalataya saka itayayo ang new law,,sa madaling sabi kinakailangan muna na puksain ang mga innoscent para maisakatuparan ang new law,,

Kaya by this context magiging mapayapa na ang kristyano kasi patay na lahat ang mga taong ayaw maging hari si hesus (luke 19:27)

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Nhordz G Diamal

Kaya nga,kapag yan ay ipinalaganap,magiging mapayapa na ang lahat pag wala ng sasalungat jn,

Kapag may sasalungat pupuksain,

Jesus said

Ang ayaw akong maghari papatayin yan

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Dennis Butic

O!? e eto!
Romans 1:16
[16]For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

The gospel is to the Greek and not only to the apostles.

O on the basis that love your enemies is for the apostles only is debunked, supot.
Much so, they have to teach all nation in matthew20:28
Much so Paul said
All things you hear from me, that you do! It means for all Christians in all times and one of these is this:
NO MALICE
NO VEHEMENT DESIRE
NO REVENGE

And peter said,
BE HARMLESS

and Paul said all inspired scriptures is for doctrine, of course it includes love your enemies

And James said
DO NOT KILL

AND JESUS SAID, HE THAT USE THE SWORD WILL PERISH WITH THE SWORD

and Jesus said, my kingdom is not of this world, if so, my disciples will fight (and kill you)…

These are corroboratory to the peaceful nature of Christians.
Whereas the weak argument, that love your enemies is for the apostles contradicts what Nhordz G Diamal presented to kill enemies.

HOW COULD APOSTLES LOVE THEIR ENEMIES IF THEYRE TO KILL THEM?

huhu talo na naman

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Dennis Butic

Eto pa

Matthew 26:51-52
[51]And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest’s, and smote off his ear.
[52]Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

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Nhordz G Diamal

Again in in 2 timothy 3:16 hindi po kasama ang love ur enemies jan kasi dpa nabasa ni pablo yan,ang tinutukoi ni pablo ay ot kasi ot ang exist during his time,

So ur argument quietly mute,,

So in general command u can kill innoscent according to jesus in luke 19:27

U can post the verses how christian so love humanities,but in the context,

U can kill them if they dont believe jesus as their king since jesus commanded the apostle on it,but since wala na ang apostle kau ngaun ang kanyang army,para pag pupuksain ang mga taong ayaw tanggapin si hesus,,

Now ang mga apostle ba mahal nila ang kaaway?

No,

isa sa mga alagad ang tumira sa isang sundalo na humuhuli kay hesus,

Pero to the rescue si hesus kasi alam nyang kokonti sila at madaling magapi,kung kaya jn pa papasok ang love ur enemies pero kapag ang majority is christian ,jan papasok ang paslangin ang mga inosente at magiging mapayapa ang mundo kasi naestablished ang new law kasi wala na ang mga hindi kristyano, puro nlng kristyano,

Pinatay na kasi ng kristyano :

In fact tawag nga ni hesus sa mga hindi nya mga taga sunod ay #ASO,,SO ur argument did not represent the true christian,

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Nhordz G Diamal

So ayan sinaway ni hesus ung isang alagad?

Why?

Simply lng

Kokonti lng sila,mauubus silang lahat pag ginawa nila un,

In fact nung sumunod si pedro sa kay hesus ay denepensahan ni hesus si pedro kasi nga idadamay ng mga romano at hudio,,pero denepensahan ni hesus na hindi sya kasama,

So ayaw ni hesus lumaban during that time kasi mahina pa sila

Gaya ng mga israelita nung ito ay mahihina pa ay ilang taon silang inalipin ng egipto pero nung maging malakas na ito

Pati sanggol na sumususo pinaghigantihan,,^_^

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Dennis Butic

HINDE ALAM NI PAUL ANG LOVE YOUR ENEMIES E SI HESUS NAGBIGAY NG LAHAT NG SASABIHIN NIYA INCLUDING 2TIM3:16?

now, he is trying to level Christianity with islam but nowhere did it say in Luke 19:27 TO PHYSICALLY AND LITERALLY KILL ENEMIES.

where did it say kill literally?

O eto,

The word of god kill too! Is it literal physical death?

nyuk!

Pero sabi ni hesus

HE THAT LIVE BY THE SWORD SHALL PERISH BY THE SWORD

therefore, corroborating peter who said

BE HARMLESS

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Dennis Butic

Kokonti sila kaya di gumanti?

E si James sabi DO NOT KILL
E si peter sabi BE HARMLESS
E si Paul sabi, NO MALICE
NO VEHEMENT DESIRE
NO REVENGE

marami na sila niyan.

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Nhordz G Diamal

I can also used it to u,

Love ur enemies is not literal because satan is ur enemy

So do u love satan??

And ur bible said

For God so love the world,

Ang God ba love lahat lahat ?

No,
Psalm 5:5-6 God hate the wrong doers,

He also hated esau,,

So ur argument is not a biblical,,

Now in luke 19:27
If u read the context, this is all about the fullfilment of the propecies in in mateo 5:18 na ang law ay masisira kapag naestablished na ang new law,meaning christian na lahat ang tao,so on that sense new law na,law of christian na,,wala ng patayan kasi puro kristyano na,pero hanggang meron pang kristyano na ayaw maging hari si hesus

Patayin yan,

Now how about the word of God can kill too?,

Yes,it is literally can kill the falsehood,

Tnx for posting that anyway,,because u exactly prove my point

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Nhordz G Diamal

Dennis Butic kokonti sila,,

Wala pa silang kalaban laban sa mga romano,,

Sa panahon ni pablo pinagbabato sya ng maraming tao (acts 14:19)

Bakit walang nagtanggol?

Simply lang,

Konti lng ang member,

Kasi logically hindi un mangyayari kasi ededepensa sya ng mga kasamahan nya,

Ikaw pag andun kapa ipagtatanggol mo si pablo?

Yes,pero kung thousands ang kalaban mo at dalawa lng kau,if u were honest dka nlng kikibo,,

And that what the christian exactly used to do,

Wala silang ginawa,,^_^

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Dennis Butic

Alam MO bang killing innocent people is abomination sa dios sabi sa OT

at sabi NI Paul sa 2TIM3:16 for doctrine yan?

LOVE YOUR ENEMIES.
sinabi bang lahat? Merong enemy na hinde namin iniibig.
YONG ME POOT SA DIOS tulad NI Satan.
2 Chronicles 19:2
Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.

Ayon sa 2TIM3:16 iibigin ANG kaaway tulad nito. Tingnan MO kung papatayin.
Proverbs 25:21-22
[21]If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:
[22]For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.

OT YAN!

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Dennis Butic

The word of god can kill the person! Proof?

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Dennis Butic

Kokonti sila kaya di gumanti?

E si James sabi DO NOT KILL
E si peter sabi BE HARMLESS
E si Paul sabi, NO MALICE
NO VEHEMENT DESIRE
NO REVENGE

marami na sila niyan.

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Dennis Butic

Bakit lumalaban lang ba ANG Muslim pag mas marami sila? E yung MILF MNLF?

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Dennis Butic

Kokonti sila kaya di gumanti?

E si James sabi DO NOT KILL
E si peter sabi BE HARMLESS
E si Paul sabi, NO MALICE
NO VEHEMENT DESIRE
NO REVENGE

marami na sila niyan.

ANG MGA UTOS BANG YAN E HINDE APPLICABLE NGAYON?

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Dennis Butic

1 Peter 1:25
[25]But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

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Nhordz G Diamal

So sinung enemy ang tintukoi mo?

And anyway ikaw na mismo ang nag patunay sa stand ko,

Enemy nyo ang may poot sa Dios,,

So kami at mga athiest at mga katoliko at inc at lahat lahat ng may poot sa Dios nyo ,may galit kau dun,

Kaya sinusunod mo nga ang lev 24:16 patayin ang lumapastangan sa Dios,

So since mga peke ang God namin at di namin kinikilala ang God mo,dapat mo kaming patayin at kapootan,,,

Now sa context ng proverbs, ,kung naniniwala ka jn,then that means tuluya mong inabandoned amg NEW TESTAMENT kasi sa 2 john 1:10-11 wag papasukin sa bahay ni babatiin ang hindi kristyano,

At hindi lng yan,may mga nasa OT na pagpapaslangin ang mga sanggol,

So bkt dmo un equote na inspired??

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Nhordz G Diamal

At sabi ni pablo,

Sinu man ang hindi magmahal kay hesus ay kasumpa sumpa,

Maskin anghel pa yan maskin sinu,basta hindi kagaya ng kay hesus dapat syang mawala,dapat syang masumpa,

So walang problema kung mapatay mo ung nangaral ng ibang hesus kasi kasumpasumpa naman un eh,,

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Nhordz G Diamal

Dennis Butic kokonti sila,,

Wala pa silang kalaban laban sa mga romano,,

Sa panahon ni pablo pinagbabato sya ng maraming tao (acts 14:19)

Bakit walang nagtanggol?

Simply lang,

Konti lng ang member,

Kasi logically hindi un mangyayari kasi ededepensa sya ng mga kasamahan nya,

Ikaw pag andun kapa ipagtatanggol mo si pablo?

Yes,pero kung thousands ang kalaban mo at dalawa lng kau,if u were honest dka nlng kikibo,,

And that what the christian exactly used to do,

Wala silang ginawa,,^_^

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Nhordz G Diamal

Utos ngaun yang wag kang papatay,sa panahon pa ni moises yan,

Pero kung hindi tatanggapin ang aral na dala dala,patayin sila,,

Yan ang kristyano

Katulad din ni moises

Sabi ng God mo

Cge pumunta ka doon sa bayan at mangaral ka ng kapayapaan,pag sila tumakwil pulbusin mo sila,

Gnun din si hesus

Sabi ni hesus mangaral kau,kapag di kau tanggapin,ang mga yaong di tumanggap sa inyo ay #higit_pa_sa_gomora_at_sodoma_ang_sasapitin

Kaya nagmumukha kang student na tinuturuan pa kapag ako kausap mo,

^_^

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Dennis Butic

Luke 16:16 say, lev24:16 Is until john. Love your enemies. No vehement desire. Etc…

ANG ME POOT SA DIOS E YUNG ALAM NA TUNAY NA DIOS TAPOS ME POOT SIYA
hinde kasali ang bulag kasi ang bulag ayon kay hesus e sinless.
2JOHN1:10-11 E TUMUTUKOY SA KAMIEMBRO NA NANLILIGAW hinde ng mga nasa labas ng iglesia kasi dinedebate sila. Paano wag papasukin e dedebatehin nga?

Ngayon, ang mga kasumpa sumpa e yung alam ang totoo at hinde umibig kay hesus kasi me mga bulag walang sala magalit man sila sa dios.

Ngayon, paano mo ulit napamalian ito?

LOVE YOUR ENEMIES
NO VEHEMENT DESIRE
NO REVENGE
NO MALICE
DO NOT KILL
NO VIOLENCE

PAANO?

1 Peter 1:25
[25]But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

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Dennis Butic

Eto pa. Peace has no end from the church.
Isaiah 9:6-7
[6]For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
[7]Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

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Nhordz G Diamal

Yes he will be the prince of peace in the sense na naestablished na nya ang kanyang mission na lahat naniniwala na sa knya

Pero kapag hindi pa,
Then wala pang peace,,

Sabi nga nya,

I am not came to bring peace but a sword

So para maging peace dapat maging isa kau ng paniniwala

Sabi nya sa john 17:20
Ipinanalangin ko na #naway_maging_isa_sila_lahat

So kapag isa na lahat lahat wala ng patayan,PERO HANGGANG MAY HINDI KRISTYANO, pupuksain pa yan,,

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Nhordz G Diamal

Inuulit ulit mo lng Dennis Butic yang sinasabi mo,

Ngaun kung bulag ay sinless kami ba ay bulag?

If yes then paraiso na kami nito,,^_^

Now kung hindi kami bulag,at itinakwil namin yang paniniwala mo,

So karapat dapat mo kaming patayin,at kaaway mo kami,,

Sa 2 john 1:10-11 walang sinabi na denedebate bagkus ang sabi dun

Wag silang papasukin ni babatiin,

So ang tinutukoi dto ay ung mga taong d tunay na kristyano,,kasi kasumpasumpa yan sabi pa ni pablo,,,

So pag sumpa sa kanila ay dahil hindi sila sumunod sa aral ni pablo at nangaral ng iba,

now paanu ko pamamalian yang ibngay mo?

Ilang beses ko ng pinamalian,

No violence kapag lahat lahat kristyano na pero pag di pa tanggap si hesus

Jan pa papasok ang violence,

Simabi na yan sa ot

Wag PAPATAY,

pero kapag di tanggap ang Dios puksain yan mga sanggol man yan o mga bata,,

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Dennis Butic

O eto!

Revelation 14:6
[6]And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Gospel to every nation such as

LOVE YOUR ENEMIES
NO VEHEMENT DESIRE
NO REVENGE
NO MALICE
DO NOT KILL
NO VIOLENT
BE HARMLESS

TO EVERY NATION DAW YAN? EVERY PEOPLE PA?
kailan nangyari?

Hinde pa ngayon, di ba? Sa future? So paano mangyayari yan at kailan yung papatayin ANG kaaway?

OO, ANG BULAG AY LIGTAS! AYON KAY PAUL AT HESUS. KUNG MABUTI PUSO MO!

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Dennis Butic

Nhordz G Diamal?

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Dennis Butic

Nga pala saan sa luke 19:27 na to physically kill enemies?

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Dennis Butic

Heaven and earth shall passaway but my words shall not passaway?

Tulad into:

LOVE YOUR ENEMIES
NO VEHEMENT DESIRE
NO REVENGE
NO MALICE
DO NOT KILL
NO VIOLENT
BE HARMLESS

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Dennis Butic

K.O?

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Nhordz G Diamal

Inulit mo na naman,,^_^

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Nhordz G Diamal

So sa future ito sa panahon kay hesus na ang majority ,,una,wag papatay,love ur enemies etc etc

Pero kapag ang majority ay kristyano na,

Patay kang bata ka

Mateo 5:17 prove to us na si hesus hindi nya sinira ang kasulatan bagkus pinapatupad nya,,

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Nhordz G Diamal

Dennis Butic wag kang mag paulit ulit sa mga refuted mong argument para ganahan pa ako sau,,^_^makipagsabayan ka,wag kang tumakbo sa kulitan style,,^_^

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Dennis Butic

SABI NI Nhordz G Diamal

So sa future ito sa panahon kay hesus na ang majority ,,una,wag papatay,love ur enemies etc etc

Pero kapag ang majority ay kristyano na,

Patay kang bata ka

Mateo 5:17 prove to us na si hesus hindi nya sinira ang kasulatan bagkus pinapatupad nya,,
.
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Naunawaan nyo?

Ahehe.

Kung confused na WORDS mo, alam mo nang pati isip mo.

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Dennis Butic

Anong HINDE SINIRA ni hesus na kasulatan

Luke16:16 THE LAW IS UNTIL JOHN

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Dennis Butic

Puntahan natin yung di niya kayang patunayan

PAPATAY DAW KAMI NG INOSENTE luke19:27

Saan kaya sinabing physically e PAPATAY Kami?

Tanungin nyo kaya. Kasi kung di niya mapatunayan edi WALANG saysay LAHAT ng sinabi niyang refuted din naman.

HINDE na siya tumatawa ahehe

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Nhordz G Diamal

Yes hindi nya sinira,

Mateo 5:17
Bakit dmo binasa??

At sabi ni hesus

Mateo 23:

‘The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.’

Binababoy mo si hesus,,^_^

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Nhordz G Diamal

Yes papatay kau ng inosente kasi sabi sa talata kapag ayaw na maging hari si hesus patayin sa harapan ni hesus,,

So yan ay sa case na si hesus ay nasa majority na,,^_^

Nhordz G Diamal

Anu ba Dennis Butic magtatrash talk ka nlng ba?^_^

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Dennis Butic

Luke 16:16 THE LAW IS UNTIL JOHN
Romans 6:15
[15]What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

We are not under the law bec it ended during john time.

What does it mean therefore by
MATT 23
the teachers of the law….sits in moses seat. So you must obey them…

Yes. True but in matters that is outside the law bec the law is dead. They obey them in matters outside the law bec the law is dead

Therefore when it say
MATT5:17
JESUS FULFILLED THE LAW

it speaks of a different law than the dead law or Torah. Jesus cannot fulfill the Torah bec he is righteous. The Torah was not for him bec he is righteous.
1 Timothy 1:9
[9]Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Therefore yung hinde sisirain NI Jesus na law e hinde yung dead Torah kundi ibang law.

Puntahan natin yung di niya kayang patunayan

PAPATAY DAW KAMI NG INOSENTE luke19:27

Saan kaya sinabing physically e PAPATAY Kami?

Tanungin nyo kaya. Kasi kung di niya mapatunayan edi WALANG saysay LAHAT ng sinabi niyang refuted din naman.

HINDE na siya tumatawa ahehe

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Dennis Butic

Kill my enemies?

Sinabi bang

PHYSICALLY KILL MY ENEMIES?

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Nhordz G Diamal

No,according to jesus he fillfilled the law,

Mateo 5:17

U are under the law since jesus also follow the law,

So nasa sau kay pablo ka o hindi

So in mateo 23 there is no mention about the death of the law on this verse

In fact ung nangaral ay mga teacher of law,so they knew the TORAH ,at ang interesting here is kanilang kinakalaban si pablo kasi sinisira ni pablo ang law,so according to jesus paul is wrong,

Bakit?

Sa mateo 23 maniwala kau sa law sabi ni hesus,

At ang sinabi sa mateo 5:17 ay hindi sisirain ni hesus ang law atsaka ang prophey pinatunayan nya un sa mateo 23 na sundin ang mga teacher of law,,

At sa luke 19:27 is all about killing innoscent as long as yan ay hindi kristyano, ,

Ang pagtawa or hindi pagtawa is not a refutation anyway,^_^

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Dennis Butic

Luke 16:16 THE LAW IS UNTIL JOHN
Romans 6:15
[15]What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

We are not under the law bec it ended during john time.

What does it mean therefore by
MATT 23
the teachers of the law….sits in moses seat. So you must obey them…

Yes. True but in matters that is outside the law bec the law is dead. They obey them in matters outside the law bec the law is dead

Therefore when it say
MATT5:17
JESUS FULFILLED THE LAW

it speaks of a different law than the dead law or Torah. Jesus cannot fulfill the Torah bec he is righteous. The Torah was not for him bec he is righteous.
1 Timothy 1:9
[9]Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Therefore yung hinde sisirain NI Jesus na law e hinde yung dead Torah kundi ibang law.

Puntahan natin yung di niya kayang patunayan

PAPATAY DAW KAMI NG INOSENTE luke19:27

Saan kaya sinabing physically e PAPATAY Kami?

Tanungin nyo kaya. Kasi kung di niya mapatunayan edi WALANG saysay LAHAT ng sinabi niyang refuted din naman.

HINDE na siya tumatawa ahehe

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Nhordz G Diamal

No,according to jesus he fillfilled the law,

Mateo 5:17

U are under the law since jesus also follow the law,

So nasa sau kay pablo ka o hindi

So in mateo 23 there is no mention about the death of the law on this verse

In fact ung nangaral ay mga teacher of law,so they knew the TORAH ,at ang interesting here is kanilang kinakalaban si pablo kasi sinisira ni pablo ang law,so according to jesus paul is wrong,

Bakit?

Sa mateo 23 maniwala kau sa law sabi ni hesus,

At ang sinabi sa mateo 5:17 ay hindi sisirain ni hesus ang law atsaka ang prophey pinatunayan nya un sa mateo 23 na sundin ang mga teacher of law,,

At sa luke 19:27 is all about killing innoscent as long as yan ay hindi kristyano, ,

Ang pagtawa or hindi pagtawa is not a refutation anyway,^_^

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Nhordz G Diamal

Wag kang magpaulit ulit Dennis Butic wala na bang bala??^_^

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Dennis Butic

Nhordz G Diamal iniwasan MO e mas malakas yan sa arguments MO!

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Nhordz G Diamal

Hindi ko iniwasan,sinagot ko,since nasagot ko,,dmo ngaun narefute amg response sau,bagkus inulit mo lng ang refuted na ahrhehe

Iiwas iwas ka nlng ba

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Dennis Butic

Sige Nhordz G Diamal isa isahin ko. Ito sabi MO. Irepost ko specific yung sagot ko para maunawaan MO. Kahit paiwas ka, di kita iiwasan.

NASA parenthesis sagot ko.
Sabi MO:
No,according to jesus he fillfilled the law,

Mateo 5:17

U are under the law since jesus also follow the law,

So nasa sau kay pablo ka o hindi
(LUKE 16:16 THE LAW IS UNTIL JOHN

meaning, patay ANG law sa panahon NI john, so ano pa I fulfill NI Jesus?)

So in mateo 23 there is no mention about the death of the law on this verse

In fact ung nangaral ay mga teacher of law,so they knew the TORAH ,at ang interesting here is kanilang kinakalaban si pablo kasi sinisira ni pablo ang law,so according to jesus paul is wrong,

Bakit?

Sa mateo 23 maniwala kau sa law sabi ni hesus,
(LUKE 16:16 THE LAW IS UNTIL JOHN

so patay ANG law sa panahon NI john so bakit pa susundin yon e patay na nga LOGICALLY yung teacher of the law e magtuturo ng mabubuting bagay na wala sa law at hinde yung law ANG susundin ng mga christian kasi patay ANG law kaya LOGICALLY, me ituturo sila na wala sa law, iyon ANG utos NI Jesus sundin.

Ahehe)

At ang sinabi sa mateo 5:17 ay hindi sisirain ni hesus ang law atsaka ang prophey pinatunayan nya un sa mateo 23 na sundin ang mga teacher of law,,
(LUKE16:16 THE LAW IS UNTIL JOHN meaning patay ANG law sa panahon NI john, kaya yung law na I fulfill NI jesus e hinde yung patay na law at yung ituturo ng teacher of the law na susundin e hinde yung patay na law kasi hanggang sa panahon lang NI john yon
Gets?)

At sa luke 19:27 is all about killing innoscent as long as yan ay hindi kristyano, ,
(DITO, KULANG KA SA LOGIC.
ASAN SINABI NA “PHYSICALLY KILL MY ENEMIES”?
SAAN MABABASA NA PHYSICAL KILLING YAN?

Porket kill e physical na?!

Patunayan!)

Ang pagtawa or hindi pagtawa is not a refutation anyway,^_^

(NHORDZ PARA KANG BABY NA KAILANGAN SUBUAN. TINGNAN MO KAILANGAN STEP BY STEP PA ANG PALIWANAG KO.)

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Nhordz G Diamal

Sige Nhordz G Diamal isa isahin ko. Ito sabi MO. Irepost ko specific yung sagot ko para maunawaan MO. Kahit paiwas ka, di kita iiwasan.
__________
#r1
Well gustong gusto ko ang ganyan argument ung inisa isa ang argument ko para mastisfy ako,now lets see kung may nagalaw kaba,

__________
NASA parenthesis sagot ko.
Sabi MO:
O,according to jesus he fillfilled the law,

Mateo 5:17

U are under the law since jesus also follow the law,

So nasa sau kay pablo ka o hindi
(LUKE 16:16 THE LAW IS UNTIL JOHN

meaning, patay ANG law sa panahon NI john, so ano pa I fulfill NI Jesus?)

__________

#r2
Yes the law according to ur bible is only to john but ur bible also admitted it na sinabi ni hesus na maniwala sa mga teacher of law,

Logically ang tinuturo ng mga teacher of law is not new testament or not the Gospel of luke but the old testament, and according to jesus follow that law,mateo 23,,

So where is right here

In luke or in mateo 23??

Now was jesus follow the law??

Yes,,

In fact he was curcumsized ,

Si paul man din ay nakisama nga sa offering of animals eh,

So sinung hipokrito dto??

So ur argument never touch my argument
______________
Sabi mo:

so patay ANG law sa panahon NI john so bakit pa susundin yon e patay na nga LOGICALLY yung teacher of the law e magtuturo ng mabubuting bagay na wala sa law at hinde yung law ANG susundin ng mga christian kasi patay ANG law kaya LOGICALLY, me ituturo sila na wala sa law, iyon ANG utos NI Jesus sundin.

Ahehe)
___________

#r2
No,read mateo 23:1-3
“Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: ‘The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.’

So here ang TORAH ANG binabasa na dapat sundin according to jesus,so dinidistort mo na lng, pero sabi ni hesus follow that law,

_________

(DITO, KULANG KA SA LOGIC.
ASAN SINABI NA “PHYSICALLY KILL MY ENEMIES”?
SAAN MABABASA NA PHYSICAL KILLING YAN?

Porket kill e physical na?!

Patunayan!)

Ang pagtawa or hindi pagtawa is not a refutation anyway,^_^

(NHORDZ PARA KANG BABY NA KAILANGAN SUBUAN. TINGNAN MO KAILANGAN STEP BY STEP PA ANG PALIWANAG KO.)

___________
#r3
Again walang refutation si Dennis Butic bagkus nagbgay lng ng cheap argument

However in luke 19:27 napakalinaw na sinabi na puksain ang ayaw na maghari si hesus,,ito ba ay literal?

Yes,

Saan ang proof??

Nagclaim kau sa deut 18:18 na si hesus ito ,at according to the verse ang di susunod sa propeta na kagaya ni moises ay pupuksain literally,

Nhordz G Diamal

Aheheheh nahuli mo bro,nabaliw na naman ahehhege

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Ali Sangcopan Hc

LHT NG SCREENSHOT KO SA WALL NYA DELETED NI Dennis Butic

GNYAN SIYA KA HIPOKRITO..

MANANG MANA SIYA KAY Bro Eli Soriano

Nhordz G Diamal NEXT TIME BKA GUSTO HUMARAP NG MAGINOONG DEBATE GROUP PAGE NILANG Bro Eli Soriano

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Nhordz G Diamal

Si soriano bro?

Walang alam yan sa debate, parang away kalye sya,

Never akong humanga sa style nyang sigawan,at kung may mabasa dw aamin ka na sinungaling ka,

Kabaliwan un na debate,hindi nya hinahayaan sumagot ang katunggali nya,di nya hinahayaan mag pinapapaliwanag sa punto ng katunggali nya,

Pag pinapanood ko debate nya,parang nasa palengke

Asong ulol ata

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Ali Sangcopan Hc

🤣🤣🤣🤣

SIGURO BRO #NHORDZ PAG NABASA NG ANAK NYA ITONG MGA SCREENSHOT KO. BKA PUGUTAN NG ULO ITONG SI Dennis Butic

NYAHAHAHAH

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Nhordz G Diamal

Ahahhahaha
Baka lasunin pa eh,,^_^

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Dennis Butic

NGAYON, TINGNAN NIYO GAANO KATAAS LEVEL NG LOGIC NI Nhordz G Diamal

AHEHE
HE POSTED:

ge Nhordz G Diamal isa isahin ko. Ito sabi MO. Irepost ko specific yung sagot ko para maunawaan MO. Kahit paiwas ka, di kita iiwasan.
__________
#r1

Well gustong gusto ko ang ganyan argument ung inisa isa ang argument ko para mastisfy ako,now lets see kung may nagalaw kaba,

__________
NASA parenthesis sagot ko.
Sabi MO:
O,according to jesus he fillfilled the law,

Mateo 5:17

U are under the law since jesus also follow the law,

So nasa sau kay pablo ka o hindi
(LUKE 16:16 THE LAW IS UNTIL JOHN

meaning, patay ANG law sa panahon NI john, so ano pa I fulfill NI Jesus?)

__________

#r2

Yes the law according to ur bible is only to john but ur bible also admitted it na sinabi ni hesus na maniwala sa mga teacher of law,

Logically ang tinuturo ng mga teacher of law is not new testament or not the Gospel of luke but the old testament, and according to jesus follow that law,mateo 23,,

So where is right here

In luke or in mateo 23??

°°DENNIS RESPONSE:
Kung sabi ng dios yung law e patay na at ito pa rin ay kailangan sundin e kontradiksyon na. Sabi ng dios walang kontradiksyon sa salita niya:
Proverbs 8:8-9
[8]All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
[9]They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.

DAHIL JAN, HINDE PWEDENG TAMA NA ANG LAW NA PATAY E ITUTURO NG TEACHERS OF THE LAW O IFULFILL NI HESUS KASI PATAY NA NGA!
LOGICALLY, PARA HINDE KONTRA, DAPAT ME HARMONY.
LOGICALLY, PARA DI KONTRA EDI IBANG LAW YUNG IFULFILL NI JESUS AS IT SAY:
Luke 24:44
[44]And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled (as he promised in matt5:17) which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me

So ano yung law he must fulfill?
Sabi, CONCERNING ME!

lahat ng law concerning him he must fulfill like he would be a prophet like moses etc…iyun ANG law na I fulfill niya hinde yung Torah dahil patay na. It follows na yung ituturo ng teachers of the law na susundin e hinde yung Torah,
DAHIL PATAY NA NGA!

NHORDZ SAID:
Now was jesus follow the law??

Yes,,

In fact he was curcumsized ,

Si paul man din ay nakisama nga sa offering of animals eh,

So sinung hipokrito dto??

DENNIS RESPONSE:
JESUS WAS CIRCUMCISED WITHOUT HIS APPROVAL. CAN A BABY APPROVE OF CIRCUMCISION?! SO HE DIDNOT FULFILL THE LAW! PAUL NEVER JOINED ANY ANIMAL SACRIFICE.
so sinong bobo dito?!

Nhordz said:

So ur argument never touch my argument
Dennis response:
 ugh!?
______________
NHORDZ SAID
Sabi mo:

so patay ANG law sa panahon NI john so bakit pa susundin yon e patay na nga LOGICALLY yung teacher of the law e magtuturo ng mabubuting bagay na wala sa law at hinde yung law ANG susundin ng mga christian kasi patay ANG law kaya LOGICALLY, me ituturo sila na wala sa law, iyon ANG utos NI Jesus sundin.

Ahehe)
___________

#r2
No,read mateo 23:1-3
“Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: ‘The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.’

So here ang TORAH ANG binabasa na dapat sundin according to jesus,so dinidistort mo na lng, pero sabi ni hesus follow that law,
DENNIS RESPONSE:
Kung sabi ng dios yung law e patay na at ito pa rin ay kailangan sundin e kontradiksyon na. Sabi ng dios walang kontradiksyon sa salita niya:
Proverbs 8:8-9
[8]All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
[9]They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.

DAHIL JAN, HINDE PWEDENG TAMA NA ANG LAW NA PATAY E ITUTURO NG TEACHERS OF THE LAW O IFULFILL NI HESUS KASI PATAY NA NGA!
LOGICALLY, PARA HINDE KONTRA, DAPAT ME HARMONY.
LOGICALLY, PARA DI KONTRA EDI IBANG LAW YUNG IFULFILL NI JESUS AS IT SAY:
Luke 24:44
[44]And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled (as he promised in matt5:17) which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me

So ano yung law he must fulfill?
Sabi, CONCERNING ME!

lahat ng law concerning him he must fulfill like he would be a prophet like moses etc…iyun ANG law na I fulfill niya hinde yung Torah dahil patay na. It follows na yung ituturo ng teachers of the law na susundin e hinde yung Torah,
DAHIL PATAY NA NGA!

NHORDZ SAID:
Now was jesus follow the law??

YES!
DENNIS RESPONSE:
pen pineapple apple pen ugh!?
_________

(DITO, KULANG KA SA LOGIC.
ASAN SINABI NA “PHYSICALLY KILL MY ENEMIES”?
SAAN MABABASA NA PHYSICAL KILLING YAN?

Porket kill e physical na?!

Patunayan!)

Ang pagtawa or hindi pagtawa is not a refutation anyway,^_^

(NHORDZ PARA KANG BABY NA KAILANGAN SUBUAN. TINGNAN MO KAILANGAN STEP BY STEP PA ANG PALIWANAG KO.)

___________
#r3

Again walang refutation si Dennis Butic bagkus nagbgay lng ng cheap argument

However in luke 19:27 napakalinaw na sinabi na puksain ang ayaw na maghari si hesus,,ito ba ay literal?

Yes,

Saan ang proof??

Nagclaim kau sa deut 18:18 na si hesus ito ,at according to the verse ang di susunod sa propeta na kagaya ni moises ay pupuksain literally,
DENNIS RESPONSE:
Asus! ANG pupuksain e yung propetang di sumunod, hinde yung hinde susunod sa propeta!

Haha
Lacking reading comprehension!

Kailan MO I apply yung tawa MO sa akin!?
Waiting…!
NGAYON, ASAN SA LUKE 19:27 NA LITERAL KILLING YAN.
yung words of god pumapatay din ng tao. Pero spiritual.?
^_^

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Dennis Butic

Ali Sangcopan Hc wag mong isingit yan para wag magulo. I challenge you to post that in my wall para debate tayo. Pinamalian na kita e uulit ulitin MO na parang tama ka! Tingnan MO nga si Nhordz G Diamal akala niya tama siya pero nabubutata…!

Hinihintay ko nga yung signature na sigurado siya yung ahehe!

Like · Reply · Edit · Yesterday at 9:36pm

Nhordz G Diamal

°°DENNIS RESPONSE:
Kung sabi ng dios yung law e patay na at ito pa rin ay kailangan sundin e kontradiksyon na. Sabi ng dios walang kontradiksyon sa salita niya:
Proverbs 8:8-9
[8]All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
[9]They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
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#r1

Wala pong sinabi na patay ang law of God,

Law din nya ang wag asawahin ang magulang,

Gusto mo bang sabihin na patay na un??

According to ur logic is yes,so pwede mo ng asawahin ang ina mo since patay na ang law of God mo??

So ang salungatan dto ay ung ipinapasok mong paliwanag,

In fact can u answer me,

Anu ang basehanan ng mga inusig ni pablo? ?

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Sabi mo:
DAHIL JAN, HINDE PWEDENG TAMA NA ANG LAW NA PATAY E ITUTURO NG TEACHERS OF THE LAW O IFULFILL NI HESUS KASI PATAY NA NGA!
LOGICALLY, PARA HINDE KONTRA, DAPAT ME HARMONY.
LOGICALLY, PARA DI KONTRA EDI IBANG LAW
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#r2

Again ang mateo 23:1-3 ay bumabase sa torah hindi sa new testament,

Sabi ni hesus sundin nyo ung kanilang salita, ,at wag ang kanilang gawa kasi hindi nila sinusunod ang kanilang mga iniaaral,
so hindi po new testament ang tinutukoi dto kundi ung torah,

At ngaun nag assume kana naman na ang tinutukoi ay ang propesia sa ot

Tgnan natin

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Sabi mo:

YUNG IFULFILL NI JESUS AS IT SAY:
Luke 24:44
[44]And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled (as he promised in matt5:17) which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me

So ano yung law he must fulfill?
Sabi, CONCERNING ME!

lahat ng law concerning him he must fulfill like he would be a prophet like moses etc…iyun ANG law na I fulfill niya hinde yung Torah dahil patay na. It follows na yung ituturo ng teachers of the law na susundin e hinde yung Torah,
DAHIL PATAY NA NGA!

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#r2a

NAKITA nyo gaanu kadesperado si Dennis Butic?

Mantakin mo pinag coconnect nya ang hindi naman talaga nagcoconnect na talata,
Ang tinutukoi sa luke 24 ay ang kanyang kamatayan at pagkabuhay sa sa ikatlong araw at un ay nasa verse 46,,however when u read the old testament walang mababasa na meron kristo na mamamatay at sa ikatlong araw mabubuhay,

In fact nung si hesus ay mabuhay sa ikatlong araw ay nashocked ang mga apostle that means hindi nila alam na may hesus na mamamatay at mabubuhay sa ikatlong araw kasi wala talaga yan sa ot,kung meron di sana hindi mashocked ung mga apostle,,pero nashocked so on that sense doubtful ang sinasabi ng talata mo,,

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NHORDZ SAID:
Now was jesus follow the law??

Yes,,

In fact he was curcumsized ,

Si paul man din ay nakisama nga sa offering of animals eh,

So sinung hipokrito dto??

DENNIS RESPONSE:
JESUS WAS CIRCUMCISED WITHOUT HIS APPROVAL. CAN A BABY APPROVE OF CIRCUMCISION?! SO HE DIDNOT FULFILL THE LAW! PAUL NEVER JOINED ANY ANIMAL SACRIFICE.
so sinong bobo dito?!

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#r3
Ang bobo dto ay ikaw,so kung sasabihin ntn na tinuli si hesus kasi dipa nya alam,then pinapalabas mo ngaun na hindi alam ni maria at amahin nito na si hesus ung kristo na sisira sa law,so kung di nila alam,,then ikaw ay higit pa sa kanila,

Kasi kung alam nila na si hesus ang sisira sa law alang alang sa nasusulat sa ot,,then hindi nila ito ipapatuli,,

So ur argument is very weak,,

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Sabi mo:

(DITO, KULANG KA SA LOGIC.
ASAN SINABI NA “PHYSICALLY KILL MY ENEMIES”?
SAAN MABABASA NA PHYSICAL KILLING YAN?

Porket kill e physical na?!

Patunayan!)
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#r4

Yes physical killing yan,pinatunayan ng bible mo,

Sabi nya,

Kau ay mangaral sa bahay bahay,kapag di kau tanggap ay ang mga di tumanggap sa inyo ay #higit_pa_sodoma_at_gomora_ang_sasapitin

Ganyan ang context,kapag di Tatanggapin si hesus ay sobra pa ang mangyayri sa sodom at gomora,

Alamo ba ang kwenti nun?

Mukhang hindi

At ung iba na sinasabu mo ay iniignore ko nlng kasi walang logic at walang kasense sense,,^_^

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Dennis Butic

ASAN ang ahehe?

PATAY NA ANG LAW. KASI HANGGANG KAY JUAN LANG ITO.

LUKE16:16 ANG TORAH AY HANGGANG KAY JUAN

kailan mo kaya IREFUTE yan
ANG pumalit e yung gospel at SA gospel BAWAL aasawahin ang kamaganak na malapit.

Luke24:44 e about LAHAT ng prophecy tungkol SA kanya na nasulat SA law of MOSES, psalms and prophets. ALL THINGS CONCERNING JESUS YAN NA AYON SA NASULAT.
Kung death ni JESUS YAN 3days and night e Mali kasi WALA yon SA old testament.

ILLOGICAL NAMAN NA YONG WALA ANG TINUTUKOY?
Iyan yung law na fulfill niya
THINGS CONCERNING HIM

BAKIT?
KASI IMPOSIBLENG YUNG TORAH ANG IFULFILL NIYA E PATAY NA NGA.

Si Jesus never fulfilled the law kahit circumcision bec HE did not approved of it. Kahit alam ni Maria na KRISTO si Jesus, HINDE naman niya alam yung gusto ni hesus.

Higit SA SODOM and Gomorrah means DIOS ANG PAPATAY at gagawang parang SODOM at Gomorrah
Meaning by supernatural means, impyerno ibig sabihin nyan

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Dennis Butic

Nashocked daw ang mga APOSTLES SA pagkabuhay ni hesus.

Natural kasi HINDE nila naunawaan NGUNIT AYON SA isang verse, ipinaunawa ni hesus pagkabuhay niya luke24:44-45

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Dennis Butic

Hay naku inulit ni Nhordz G Diamal yung mga argumento niya SA mga group pages na pipitsugin

Ahehe

Ako na Lang tatawa para sayo nhordz

Like · Reply · Edit · Yesterday at 10:20pm

Nhordz G Diamal

Oh see,wala ng response bagkus nagsalita nlng ,para magmukhang sya ang last comment aheheheh
Like · Reply · Delete · Report · Yesterday at 10:22pm

Dennis Butic

So last comment mo na yon?
PERO marami pa sa akin e…Ayaw ni Nhordz G Diamal ng LOGIC ngayon.
YUNG style niya SA group pages ginagamit niya akala niya effective
PERO HINDE umubra…

Like · Reply · Edit · Yesterday at 10:24pm

Dennis Butic

Goodnight. PERO mahihirapan matulog yan kasi first time niyang ma KO

mahirap matulog pag me pride…

Hehe

Like · Reply · Edit · Yesterday at 10:27pm

Dennis Butic

Lalo pa kaya kung si bro Eli kadebate ng MGA MUSLIM scholar
Like · Reply · Edit · Yesterday at 10:28pm

Nhordz G Diamal

Hmmp cheap words ka nlng^_^
Like · Reply · Delete · Report · Yesterday at 10:30pm

Nhordz G Diamal

Mukhang kinakausap mo nlng ang sarili mo Dennis Butic ah aheheeh

Ok yan purihin mo sarili mk kasi wala ng pumupuri sau,ahehehee

Like · Reply · Delete · Report · Yesterday at 10:31pm

Dennis Butic

Tapos na?
Like · Reply · Edit · Yesterday at 10:31pm

Nhordz G Diamal

Hmmp nalilito kana ata^_^
Like · Reply · Delete · Report · Yesterday at 10:55pm

Dennis Butic

Sure Nhordz G Diamal as you wish
Like · Reply · Edit · Yesterday at 10:57pm
LASTLY, HINDE NAPATUNAYAN NI NHORDZ NA CHRISTIANS PHYSICALLY KILL  ENEMIES. WALA KASING GANON SA LUKE 19:27 DAHIL ANG PERPETUAL LAW AYON SA DIOS THAT NEVER PASSAWAY , DIE OR ABROGATED IS THE GOSPEL AS PRESENTED ABOVE INCLUDING
LOVE YOUR ENEMIES…

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