MYTH: BIBLICAL FLAT EARTH!

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The Biblical Flat Earth: The Teaching From Scripture

As a Christian, the flat earth begins and ends with Scripture. While the evidence continues to mount, and has, for the flat earth, I must begin by saying, “the Scriptures told you so.”

Just like so many people have been deceived regarding evolution, the big bang, and heliocentrism, so to have many been duped into believing that we are on a spinning ball. The ramifications of these lies have wide sweeping effects upon every sphere of life and society. I would like to begin with the most controversial verse in Isaiah. 

It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in” Is. 40:22

I recall in my apologetic days, that when atheists would make fun of the Bible, they would constantly bring up this verse. The typical Christian response was to point out that the word circle here is, in fact, proving that the earth was a ball. I remembered even then thinking that didn’t seem right to me. We all know what a circle is and it is not a ball. In fact, the Hebrew word used in this verse is “khoog” (pronounced chug). The word literally means, circle, circuit, and compass. In all of these words, none of them conjure up a picture of a ball. Furthermore if the earth were a ball, and God wished to communicate that here, then it would have required using the Hebrew word “dure” (pronounced dur). The Hebrew definition for dure is, a circle, pile, or ball. Isn’t that interesting? If the shape of the earth was intended to be conveyed as a “ball” then the Hebrew word “dure” would have been the word used. It wasn’t. What we were given instead was the Hebrew word “khoog.”

As you can see above, the flat earth depictions are exactly that, a circle. Furthermore, notice that in the verse that man is dwelling in the earth. The Hebrew word here is “yashab” and literally means to “sit down,” and by implication means to dwell, to remain, and to settle. It would be quite difficult to sit down, remain, and settle upon a spinning ball, wouldn’t it?

Another interesting verse for me is when Jesus is taken up to a high mountain by Satan and shown the kingdoms of the world.

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. – Matthew 5:8

Notice that this mountain was “very high.” In the Greek here, the word for high is “hupselos” and means literally high or lofty. Add to that the Greek word “very” which is “lian” and we now have a very intentional description of this.

If the world is a ball, the higher one goes the less one would be seeing of the earth because the curvature would constantly be falling and you would have to look further and further down, however. If the earth were flat, then the higher you go, the more you see while the horizon stays at eye level. The horizon rises to the eye. It seems to me that Jesus was taken to very high mountain and could literally see all of the kingdoms of the world.

Some may respond with objections to this interpretation suggesting that this particular event is merely speaking symbolically. To that I would ask, what were the kingdoms a symbol of if not of real literal kingdoms? Was Satan a symbol as well? What about Jesus? Was He a symbol too? Obviously that sort of interpretation for this particular verse does not work at all.

Another interesting example from Scripture is found in Joshua 10 where God caused the “sun to stand still.”

“And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.” – Joshua 10:13

If the sun is the center of the universe and the earth is orbiting around it, then for this event to occur, it would have to have been the earth standing still, not the sun, however. If the earth is flat and the sun and moon rotate above us, it would make perfect sense for the sun to stand still in order to prolong the day here.

The Teaching Of Scripture Regarding The Flat Earth:

And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come. – Jeremiah 49:36 

Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land. – Ezekiel 7:2

The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth. – Daniel 4:11 

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in. – Isaiah 40:22

Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them. – Matthew 4:8

And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth. – Acts 10:11 

I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me. – Acts 11:5 

And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. – Revelation 7:1 

And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. – Revelation 20:8 


The number of verses that teach the earth is a round spinning ball orbiting the sun? 0

Some would argue that these verses were meant to convey the sun from our perspective. I would have to ask: why would the standard of truth and the Sovereign God wish to communicate the truth of the earth He created from OUR perspective? This sort of reasoning is what led to many false teaching regarding the creation account. For them, they start with the presupposition that evolution is true, and then reason that God only communicated the creation account through poetic symbolism and yet the same ones would use the “circle” reference as anything but a symbol.

The Scriptures are the source and standard of truth and would not be if the information that is being communicated is based merely upon man and his “perspective.”

Also, the verses which speak about the “four corners” of the earth only makes sense in respect to the flat earth. If the earth were a ball there wouldn’t be one corner, let alone four. Yes, I recognize that the “four corners” could be merely an “all encompassing” reference, however. It still stands as a mental thorn in the minds of those that wish to believe we are on a spinning ball.

1. CIRCLE OF THE EARTH

It is he who “yashab” (sit down, settle) above the “chug” (circle) of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in” Is. 40:22

It don’t conjure any logical thought that it speaks of the earth as 2-dimensional circle or a flat circle. It did not say the earth is a circle, so to make it flat. It only suggests that earth has a chug or a circle. In like manner in saying that a sphere has a circle as saying, “circle of the sphere”. Does it suggest a sphere is flat?
No!

Therefore circle of the earth doesn’t suggest a flat earth, as circle of the sphere doesnt suggest a sphere (ball) is flat.

A sphere is a ball but it has a circle likewise earth is a ball and yet it has a circle!

It doesnt mean sphere and earth is flat.

Look below, saying circle of the sphere doesn’t make a sphere flat therefore saying, “circle of the earth” must not mean earth is flat.

God settles upon the circle of the earth, bec earth is his footstool.

Isaiah 66:1

[1]Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

Obviously, it is literally, god stepping upon the earth which literally he would be resting upon one of its many circles probably, a great circle as described above, the circle of the sphere!

Is it observable that earth has a circle?

Yes! Look at the picture below, you would see a 2-dimensional flat earth, that is as viewed from extraterrestrial viewpoint but in reality, its a ball!

Is not god conveying the message that circle of the earth is either describing it like the great circle of the sphere described in geometry as I presented above or it could be as the flat circle (in the picture below) as the product of viewing the earth from outer space, though flat circle in view but in reality is ball-like? 

Could he not mean circle of the earth is the circle you see from viewing the earth from outer space?

 Either way, both proves that earth has a circle, the circle from view and the circle of the sphere. It did not specify though if earth is a flat circle or not bec it did not directly say, the earth is a circle, but simply saying, the earth has a circle by saying, “circle of the earth”. Therefore nothing in it, is conclusive to say that the earth is a 2-dimensional circle.

2. JESUS WAS SHOWN ALL KINGDOM OF THE EARTH.

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. – Matthew 5:8

Notice that this mountain was “very high.” In the Greek here, the word for high is “hupselos” and means literally high or lofty. Add to that the Greek word “very” which is “lian” and we now have a very intentional description of this.

If the world is a ball, the higher one goes the less one would be seeing of the earth because the curvature would constantly be falling and you would have to look further and further down, however. If the earth were flat, then the higher you go, the more you see while the horizon stays at eye level. The horizon rises to the eye. It seems to me that Jesus was taken to very high mountain and could literally see all of the kingdoms of the world.

NO! There is no suggestion that earth is flat. If so, still, jesus cannot see the farthest part of the flat stretch of land, even from his vantage point except though if he has superman vision. The reason satan led him to a high mountain was to test him. Whatever reason satan have to choose an isolate high mountain is irrelevant but his attempt to show jesus the whole earthly kingdom logically, is bec he knew jesus can see the innermost part of all man for it to be possible that he could perceive all kingdom of the earth wherever they are on the globe, as it say, 

John 2:24-25

[24]But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,

[25]And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.

It is by that reality, jesus ability to know the innermost part of all men,  that jesus could see all kingdom of men at whatever point on earth whether it be flat or a globe, though nothing in those categories, flat or globe, was  implied, but what is emphasized was, jesus could see you wherever you are on earth as he knew what is in all man!

The only problem though for you is, it neither confirms or deny the flat earth concept thus nothing in it is decisive to verify the flat earth concept.

3.SUN STOOD STILL

“And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.” – Joshua 10:13
If the sun is the center of the universe and the earth is orbiting around it, then for this event to occur, it would have to have been the earth standing still, not the sun, however. If the earth is flat and the sun and moon rotate above us, it would make perfect sense for the sun to stand still in order to prolong the day here.

Indeed! Sun standing still is possible such as red sea parting was possible. It was a miracle act. It don’t suggest a flat earth though. Nevertheless, your concept of earth as should be the one standing still than the sun bec its the earth that is moving, is biblically immature. Sun standing still was by the literal perception of Joshua, as illusory, it is a natural phenomena that the sun is moving. It was from the perception of Joshua that sun is moving thus he requested it to keep still as it say, 

Joshua 10:12

[12]Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.

God himself in his many revelations sometimes don’t exactly describe things in their natural condition such as the circuit of earth in relation to seemingly static sun by using terms like “rising of the sun” “setting down of the sun”. He don’t imply that the sun moves around the earth as implied by sunrise and sunset. In reality, sun dont rise or set or moves around the earth but simply, he used this human terminologies as speaking things, understandable by his human subjects, that is, speaking words in human terms, sunrise or sunset.

Psalms 113:3

[3]From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the LORD’S name is to be praised.

So when he say, sun stand still, it was adopting human terminologies. 

At all times god used human terminologies such as the Hebrew terms he used for his old testament. Why cannot he adopt things as “sunrise” and “sun stood still” as part of his truth?

The OP said,

Some would argue that these verses were meant to convey the sun from our perspective. I would have to ask: why would the standard of truth and the Sovereign God wish to communicate the truth of the earth He created from OUR perspective? This sort of reasoning is what led to many false teaching regarding the creation account. For them, they start with the presupposition that evolution is true, and then reason that God only communicated the creation account through poetic symbolism and yet the same ones would use the “circle” reference as anything but a symbol.


God used human terminologies, such as sunrise and sunset, does it suggests a biblical error in terms of science? Is sunrise or sunset scientifically true? Do the sun circles the earth for it to set and rise?
Obviously, god did not intend that as a scientific fact as he never confirms or deny it as a scientifict fact therefore, nobody could accuse god as unscientific, bec he did not confirm it as scientific fact

Hosea 14:9

[9]Who is wise, and he shall understand these things? prudent, and he shall know them? for the ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them: but the transgressors shall fall therein.

Therefore using human terminologies are right for god. Does that invalidates anything that god declares as natural phenomena such as creation, and symbolisms such as corners of the earth?
No! Bec it was specified if a thing is literal or symbolism, by the principle that, nothing could be added or diminished from whatever he do, and one of such, is for man to validates his belief by inquiry, meaning, to understand gods way, by corroborating it to facts.

Proverbs 20:24-25

[24]Man’s goings are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his (god) own way?

[25]It is a snare to the man who yala (inconsiderately devour) that which is holy, and after vows to make enquiry.

1 Corinthians 11:14

Doth not even nature (science) itself teach you…

Implying, it is a snare for a man to make inconsiderate conclusion from the bible without making inquiry first, if such things are compliant to facts, nature or science, as indeed, laws of nature, is an applicable and integral religious component. Therefore, by this principle, anything that god said if it is compliant to facts then it is the appropriate and intended meaning, such as circle of the earth being compliant to science is therefore literally meant and not a symbolism.
In short, whatever the bible say, if verified by science, is the correct interpretation. That thing therefore is scientific and not a symbolism.
Sunrise, sunset and sun stood still, being unverified as scientific fact, must be understood therefore as mere human perspective god used to convey an understandable circumstances, by way of, adopting human understanding. It is not a biblical error in terms of science as god never confirms it as scientific fact.

4. FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH SUGGEST A FLAT EARTH.

And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four “gonia” (angle, corner, quarter) of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. – Revelation 7:1 

And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. – Revelation 20:8 


The question is, Is the globe subdivided into four geometrical angle, corner or quarter?

Yes! The four hemispheres!

Therefore, its possible that god when saying, four corners of the earth he speaks of the four earth hemispheres.

Other possible explanation:

Job 38:13

[13]That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

Jeremiah 10:13

When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.

The Hebrew words used for ends in the verses above  is shown below:

ENDS OF THE EARTH suggests, an edge, extremity, quarter, corner, uttermost part, coast of the earth! And as suggested by Jeremiah is a place where vapours ascend, logically, the oceans and seas.

Therefore ends of the earth, is likewise, the quarters of the earth, which in application is, likewise, the corners of the earth. So when saying, four corners of the earth, it doesn’t suggest, a flat earth having corners as the OP suggests,

Also, the verses which speak about the “four corners” of the earth only makes sense in respect to the flat earth. If the earth were a ball there wouldn’t be one corner, let alone four. Yes, I recognize that the “four corners” could be merely an “all encompassing” reference, however. It still stands as a mental thorn in the minds of those that wish to believe we are on a spinning ball.

Four corners of the earth, corners or quarters or ends, as possibly similar words in application, which place speaks particularly of an earthly characteristic descriptive of places where vapours ascend. Scientifically, it suggests oceans, thus saying, four corners of the earth literally, it speaks of four oceans of the earth as four corners of the earth.

Is there such a thing?

Possibly, the ends of the earth, as oceans, similar to corners or quarters of the earth suggest therefore that corners or quarters of the earth are oceans, where vapours ascend, thus four corners of the earth are four oceans. Historically, there are four oceans such as Atlantic, pacific, Indian and arctic. These are the possible four corners of the earth.

Though, nothing certain was explained regarding the four corners of the earth, to confirm or deny, nothing likewise confirms that four corners is the attribute of a flat earth as it could be symbolic, for oceans.

Therefore, the bible never confirmed the flat earth concept!

5. EARTH HAS ENDS

The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth. – Daniel 4:11 


Answered above. Ends of the earth are where vapours come from, logically, bodies of water i.e oceans and seas! Though the tree could be seen from all corners of the earth was bec its a dream, not reality!

By these, logical reasons, rational interpretations, therefore, nothing in the bible is confirmatory as certain statement that is conclusive to say earth is flat!

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