Doth God pervert judgment? or doth the Almighty pervert justice?
Atheists view of god:
What is justice?
“THE QUALITY OF BEING IMPARTIAL IN CONFORMITY TO TRUTH, FACT AND REASON”
How is god a god of justice?
Bec justice is defined as being impartial or fair in conformity to truth, fact and reason, god being a factual being, the supreme authority as a fact, therefore by logical reason and truth, it follows that being in that position as an established lawgiver, the source of what is right or wrong, being almighty, being most high in intellect, knowledge and understanding, the creator of all things, he therefore is unquestionable thus whatever he say, is the law, the truth and just! And being, unquestionable, his words is justice.
Of course, that is if he is factual! Is he?
If he is, common sense dictates that we must be in submission!
He is the supreme authority!
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is YHWH, art the “elyon” (the supreme) over all the earth.
Being the supreme, he is the supreme authority, thus everything he say is justice!
For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?
Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?
Hast thou an arm like God?
Common sense tells us that being in that position, the supreme authority, he must be unquestionable bec it is in essence of being the source of truth! We have no right to oppose his prescribed moral conduct,
Bec he is the source of truth! And what is moral or not!
That is justice! Bec justice is impartial compliance to truth, fact and reason and its a fact, that god,is the source of truth, whatever he commands or do, is just and correct, bec he being supreme, follows that his judgments is compulsory the just and right things.
“For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?”
“Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?”
That as a fact is justice in its truest sense.
Bec its the truth! Its the truth that god is the supreme authority who is the source of what is wrong or right!
See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
One thing that dilutes this reality is if god is not real but if he is, then naturally, he is, the source of truth, likewise, moral conduct!
There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
Thus being a fact, god as the source of truth, he must be believed!
The atheist accused god of being bloodthirsty, genocidal malevolent bully!
First of all he is not bloodthirsty, as such, conclusion must be derived from having knowledge of god’s intent, which the atheist can impossibly establish as he cannot see intent.
No! He don’t kill, punish or torment without valid, logical reason!
Firstly, let us establish god’s intent on imposing harsh measures and punishments during moses time.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
For the LORD thy God walketh in the midst of thy camp, to deliver thee, and to give up thine enemies before thee; therefore shall thy camp be holy: that he see no unclean thing in thee, and turn away from thee.
The reason was, to put evil away from the people, requiring them to be holy, that the people shall hear, or fear god, implying, complete submission to god, necessarily by these threats. Threats were one of his methods. Its a ward-off method as initial move bound for the ultimate people’s complete and consensual submission through love!
And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
All these for one purpose: salvation.
Were god’s laws indeed injustice as claimed by atheists?
Let us consider some which seem harsh, unjust and violent.
1. KILL WOMEN NON-VIRGINS ON THEIR WEDDING NIGHT.
Logically, death penalty is for harlots, or whores thus they must be killed, much so, after attempting marriage, and discovered a harlot. God didnt want fornication among his people thus the penalty.
And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt.
The sceptre (of correction) shall not depart from Judah,
2. KILL RAPE VICTIMS THAT DIDNT SCREAM WHILE BEING RAPED!
If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;
Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour’s wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.
The only excuse not to kill a rape victim for not resisting and screaming is, if there was force used, such as a knife on her life, such that she cannot scream! But without threat, a woman who scream not, must likewise be killed!
Of course! If you like being raped, then youre enjoying it, which is whoredom, permissive and consensual sex, logically speaking, which was prohibitted. Acccdg to these verses, as implied, sex without resistance is whoredom, which is a prohibition.
There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
If not, you should resist, through screaming.
But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man “chazaq” (restrain) her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die
As prescribed, if there was force or restraint used i.e knife on the throat etc… such that you cannot resist or scream, rape victims are not to be killed, but without any, rape victims should scream or else die! Bec they become whores permitting consensual sex, while being married, as logically implied.
3. RAPE VICTIMS SHOULD MARRY THEIR RAPISTS!
If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Its by the principle of “arranged marriage” which was norms in those days such as when god arranged Isaac’s marriage to Rebecca, in like manner that rape victims should marry their rapists. Its gods prerogative to impose that as law for the sole reason that its his will.
Is it logical?
Yes! Submission to supreme authority is justice!
This to teach them to be faithful, in whatever god requires for them as proof of sincere love for god. A learning process as training ground for sincere submission to god.
Specially the day that thou stoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.
4. GENOCIDE OF A WHOLE VILLAGE.
And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent.
And ye, in any wise keep yourselves from the accursed thing, lest ye make yourselves accursed, when ye take of the accursed thing, and make the camp of Israel a curse, and trouble it.
But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the LORD.
So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
5. KILL ALL MALE CAPTIVES.
When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
These examples would ultimately be concluded as injustice from an atheistic view. God can do genocide of babies, helpless as they are, the weak, sick, lame, women and old etc… He is an authoritarian ruler that must be compulsory obeyed through his “considerate” directives and guidance if not you would merit penalties. He could arrange marriages out of peoples consent, he could do anything he likes…
My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
He could do all he wants, and yet he is not bloodthirsty as killing was for a purpose you, Richard Dawkins do not know. Your foolish babblings are just product of limited comprehension, like a chicken questioning why humans eat chicken, thus calling humans as sadomasochistic, chicken-killer farts, bec the chicken cannot comprehend why humans kill chickens.
God dont kill wicked people bec it is a pleasure but bec it is a necessity.
Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
Why is it necessary for god to kill, such as, killing through calamities, earthquake, permitting certain people to kill..etc?
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
Its his natural role! Likewise as corroborated by the law of nature! Inherent for any supreme authority! Bec he is the source of what is good and evil!
What law of nature?
According to the law of nature, a specific phenomena has always a causal source. In the case of god, proven foreknowledge and precognition as a phenomena, as sanctioned by the law of nature, should have a causal source which in these cases, god claimed these foreknowledge and precognition elements as his, thus through its validation, rationally points to god as causal source thereby a testament of the veracity of his words as standard moral code, where god as the taker of life, as he claimed is indeed his prerogative.
So as corroborated by the law of nature!
So is god sadomasochistic, megalomaniacal, vindictive, unforgiving, genocidal, malevolent bully?
No! As clearly stated:
Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
He is the supreme! Are there others? None, therefore? He is the law.
Punishments are necessary. To kill is necessary.
Its god’s way!
No! He is justice.
This is one thing, therefore I said it, He destroyeth the perfect and the wicked.
If the scourge slay suddenly, he will laugh at the trial of the innocent.
God laugh when tormenting the innocent?
Yes! He delights on their positive and upright responses.
They that are of a froward heart are abomination to the LORD: but such as are upright in their way are his delight.
God destroys both wicked and righteous?
Yes! He kills the righteous to spare them from future torments, these are the ones guaranteed of salvation, that dont need to be tested by torments anymore.
The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.
Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.
Why are wicked people killed?
Bec these have no more chance for salvation, as implied, god wants all men to be saved, thus by that principle, he spare those that have chances to be saved and kill the hopeless.
1 Timothy 2:3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
To torment hopeless wicked people to death?
No! He wants all men to be saved.
No! He exalts righteous women!
Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
No! He saves righteous gays!
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons (race or gender)
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Natural law dictates our moral conduct as it say,
By virtue of the natural law, which determines, morality as essential human integrity, by way of, reasoning and assessment, it is therefore binding and ethical, by the fact, that god is real, the source of morality, the supreme authority, that whatever god therefore ordained as law and moral conduct is justice, thus being a reality as guaranteed by the law of nature I earlier used, it therefore remains a superior ethical guideline,by way of it such that everything god requires as moral conduct is an essential substance of belief as necessary consequence of logic and reason required by natural law, provided it is at the aspect of factual reality, if he as supreme authority, is real.
By virtue of the law of nature, a supreme authority who is the source of truth, must be the standard source of moral conduct, bec if not, who is?
Is there empirical proof that Richard Dawkins is the standard source of moral conduct?
How about god?
There is! His mere existence as testament of his being the source of moral conduct, justice and truth is verified by the factuality of his foreknowledge and precognition as proven in empirical manner! testifies the veracity of his words,
Therefore, as testimony of his being the “supreme authority”! And being that, he is the law!
“THE SUPREME LAW”
AND BEING THAT, HIS WORDS AND DEEDS ARE ABSOLUTELY JUSTICE!
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