​FALSIFYING THE “GOD DIED” CONCEPT

—Similarly, according to the rule of the Catholic Faith, we also say with THE STRICTEST TRUTH that GOD WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN, that GOD DIED; for as THE DIVINITY WAS NEVER SEPARATED FROM HIS BODY which was laid in the sepulcher, we TRULY CONFESS that GOD WAS BURIED.” [CATECHISM OF TRENT of Pope St. Pius V, Art. IV, #8, par 2]. —
Catholics say god died in his human nature. Basically they were saying that god in his divine nature transmutated into a human being yet still retained with him his divine nature.

They use this verse:

Jn 1:1 . In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
That is why, when the human nature died, it is god himself who died but not in his divine nature. 

They use this verse:

Re 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Re 1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
That is the catholic concept. 

I on the other hand would try to interpret the truth as I heard from Bro Eli Soriano.

We don’t believe god can die.

HOW COULD AN ETERNAL BEING DIE?

It is self-defeating to the very essence of eternal if he died. Does god contradicts himself to say he died and say he is eternal?

Hb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come… This is the true God, and eternal life.
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. It was referring not to the human being but the divine person. That divine person is eternal life, thus he as god, cannot die.

Who died?

Hb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
As we can see, there is a distinction between the body (human being) and god (me).

“but a body hast thou prepared me”
The body (human being) is not god bec it is not eternal whereas god is eternal.
Hb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come… This is the true God, and eternal life.
This defeats the idea that god become man. 

But how come john 1:1,14 say he become man?

Jn 1:1 . In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
It is obviously a mistranslation bec it would contradicts the idea that he only came inside a man.

How is it a mistranslation?

THE WORD WAS “MADE” FLESH
MADE in greek:

G1096  ginomai  ghin’-om-ahee
a prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb;
to cause to be (“gen”-erate), i.e. (reflexively) to become (come into being), used with great latitude (literal, figurative, intensive, etc.).

As we can see, the application of “to become” implying, to become flesh is rather literally or figuratively.

“used with great latitude (literal, figurative,”
It suggests two things. Either god become flesh literally or figuratively. If he become flesh literally, then it’s wrong. It would contradict HEB 10:5 which say, he did not become flesh, but indwells in the flesh.

Why not?

God is eternal while his human flesh is not suggesting that the human flesh is not god.
So the right interpretation would be is, he become flesh figuratively speaking. That is, “indwelling in the flesh which through flesh god was manifested”.

1 Timothy 3:16

[16]And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

They would argue using this verse: JESUS AS THE FIRST AND THE LAST DIED.

Re 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Re 1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
It must not be understood as god died.

Why?

Bec god is eternal, as I have presented.

It must be understood in context. 

Jesus, in his literary speeches, often interchangeably use his human nature alone to refers to himself, and would use his divine nature alone to refer to himself. 

HIS HUMAN NATURE AS HIMSELF. HIS DIVINE NATURE EXCLUDED.

Jn 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
His human nature refers to him. His divine nature is excluded as it is not a man. As we see in HEB 10:5, Body and god is distinct from each other.

HIS DIVINE NATURE AS HIMSELF. HIS HUMAN NATURE IS EXCLUDED.

Jn 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
He used his divine nature alone to refer to himself. it excludes his human nature as it was not from heaven.

Therefore as we can see, jesus would often refers to himself by his human nature alone or by his divine nature alone. He can interchangeably do it, and still it refers to himself, so when he said,

Fear not; I am the first and the last

It obviously refers to his divine nature. And when he said,

I [am] he that liveth, and was dead

It obviously refers to his human nature alone.
It doesn’t mean that the human nature is god. 

First, they are distinctively different entities.

Hb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
“but a body (human nature) hast thou prepared me (god)”
Second, god is eternal thus the human nature is not god bec it is not eternal.
Hb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come… This is the true God, and eternal life.
WHY DO WE BELIEVE THAT GOD CANNOT DIE?
BEC OF THE FACT THAT HE IS THE ETERNAL LIFE, AN ETERNAL BEING.
That for instance, demolished the rational structure of catholic faith, falsifying in effect its basic foundation.

HOW COULD AN ETERNAL BEING DIE?
HOW JESUS IS BOTH MAN AND GOD…
Jesus is the combination of human body and the god within

HEB10:5
The body is not god as it is not eternal whereas GOD is eternal 

1john5:20
The body died. The GOD inside the body separated and visited spirits in prison

1PET3:19

The body was left in the grave

AS implied, he would be in the tomb 3days and 3nights…
That proves, the two nature of Jesus

AS human (the dead body)

AS GOD (the one that visited the spirits)

Corroborative proof:

Ephesians 4:9-10

[9](Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

[10]He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

THE ONE THAT DESCEND IS THE ONE THAT ASCEND TO HEAVEN.  IT CANNOT BE THE PHYSICAL BODY AS FLESH CANNOT ENTER HEAVEN.

1 Corinthians 15:50

[50]Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
By simple logic, we can conclude that the one that descended to the spirits in prison as the one that ascended to heaven cannot be the physical body as the one who ascended to heaven being the one that descended to the spirits of prison cannot be flesh as flesh cannot enter heaven, whereas jesus entered it, therefore suggesting, that, human body and god, was a different entities as corroborating HEB 10:5, the human body is a distinct component of jesus along with god that indwells in it.

That, combination of body and GOD is the person of Jesus…
CLEARLY, GOD DID NOT BECOME MAN. THUS WHEN THE MAN (HUMAN BODY) DIED, IT WAS NOT GOD WHO DIED.

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